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Aug 6 2023 01:54pm
and an another old one, aged quite well.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-gtodtbxDg


Thanks for the video.
watching now.
If you have time or one day you consider to do some reading.
This might interest you too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Leaders_Lie
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Thanks for the video. ^Ferdia
watching now.
If you have time or one day you consider to do some reading.
This might interest you too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Leaders_Lie


i will always consider but his books are hard to read, sometimes he does go on and on.

here is a repost, more recent, my view still aligns with him.

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LOOK LOOK

A water based drone, kamizake attack by ukraine

drones land, water, or air are the new warfare strat min/max
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IS Ukraine the bad guy now that they've been empowered?

drone attacking the enemy?
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IS Ukraine the bad guy now that they've been empowered?

drone attacking the enemy?


nope they are not. there is no narrative where ukraine is the bad guy, other then them blowing up NS2 as accused by the Americans, and various potential or real false flags in an effort to create ww3.

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nope they are not. there is no narrative where ukraine is the bad guy, other then them blowing up NS2 as accused by the Americans, and various potential or real false flags


Even after using cluster bombs?
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Quote (Mondain @ Aug 6 2023 10:34pm)
Even after using cluster bombs?


of course, you dont blame the dog, you blame its owner. there are no bad dogs, just bad owners, and there are able resources available to highlight the metaphor and tangible fact that ukraine is now owned.

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of course, you dont blame the dog, you blame its owner. there are no bad dogs, just bad owners, and there are able resources available to highlight the metaphor and tangible fact that ukraine is now owned.


so it's all good in the hood for zillyinzkee to say no "democract" elections until war ends?
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so it's all good in the hood for zillyinzkee to say no "democract" elections until war ends?


what does that have to do with anything ? i dont subscribe to the US model of democracy being the only form of government. in wartime you have to accept that truth, justice, morality etc have no place, therefore its not a stretch to say that martial law will be enforced, civil liberties curtailed and elections postponed. its a bit like ukraine's bid for nato. Nato is more then happy to allow ukraine to join, just like ukraine is more then happy to have elections, as soon as they beat russia and kick russia out of all of ukraine.

i know i am being harsh here, i apologize. i just dont see a problem with ukraine not having a democratically elected government. i mean, they have not had one in decades when you think about it. its similar to what the Georgian leader said a few months ago, its either a puppet russian government or a puppet western government. so being autocratic in the middle of a war for survival is probably the best thing for them, no red tape or meetings / dissent.

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