I was on the first part of my holidays with no internet. Are they still fighting ober Bakhmut?:lol:

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jul 30 2023 12:58pm

Bakhmut fell, it’s under Russia control. Name of the game is Ukrainian counteroffensive that seems to be going on quite badly for now with 4k videos of destroyed Leopard formations showing up on the internet every now and the. Ukrainians aren’t showing many success videos anymore it seems. I have a feeling wars will be live-streamed to Twitch soon to get ad revenue.




Rumour is it’s for a false flag to drag Poland into this without triggering NATO article 5 so Russia can get Suwalki gap and connect Kaliningrad to the mainland and disconnect Baltics from the EU.

But it’s all rumours. Make your own theories, go wild. My word is as good as yours.

Well, they gained ground and are still gaining ground. I wouldn't call that failed a counter-offensive, more like severely under the expectations set by the west who thought they'd steamroll fortified positions with "just enough" equipment and manpower. As I see it, both sides are losing equipment and men for no reason everyday.



An interesting rumor but how is Russia going to defend that corridor if they try to forcefully take it? Land corridor sounds good in theory, in reality it's surrounded by enemy states from Russian perspective. I think they're just f*cking around with Poland just like they do with Ukraine. They bind resources without firing a single shot.

More plausible theories for why Wagner would go there are:

1. To force Ukraine to divert resources to the north
2. To train the Belorussian army (which has been already confirmed)
3. To make sure Lukashenko is safe from any sort of "popular uprising" similarly to Ukraine in 2014.
4. To sabotage any sort of move by Poland to get into western Ukraine

Theory 3 is most interesting IMO. I think NATO has funded and propped up Lukashenko's opposition for awhile now, hoping to turn Belarus similarly to Ukraine. Wagner may just be that insurance against that. If you're some Belorussian general who may be temped to try some sort of coup with outside help, having cutthroats like Wagner close by will for sure make you think twice. The thing is, they are outside your command/intelligence structure so it would be very hard to attempt some upset of power internally without them getting wind and potentially responding. A combination of any of those theories could make sense. I don't think going for the Suwalki make sense right now.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jul 30 2023 05:12pm

Much better take than mine, I must concede.

3. seems more plausible. Lukashenko's interviews also suggest he is happy to have Wagner as "freedom and democracy" prevention. However, binding resources is a given as well. Poland in high alert with no room to fuck around the Belarus border and Kiev diverting forces needed for the counter-offensive in the south further north than they'd like to.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jul 31 2023 06:54am

Lmao i wish this movie existed

It's funny to see people roasting poland.

I guess that ww2 nostalgia is fading from memory