Hi mate
It's been a while

As to any other ppls from any other countries right ? If you like history as much as I do, you need to be obsessed by facts and you start to quit any form of nationalism.

You spoke of Napoléon its a good example. Nationalist will say he is just a hero and lefties will say he was just a mysoginistic blood thirsty killer. I just like to embrace full history with facts


[/QUOTE]Ask Malopox and Ofthevoid. There is a repulsive attitude towards France at times on this thread because of your fellow countryman.
He / She just appeared by the way.[/QUOTE]

I see ty I understand better now.



This post was edited by Youshould on Jul 30 2023 06:39am

He is one of the greatest statesman / general in recent history , the other will be Charles De Gaulle.

Most of us in this particular thread will prefer and use an Amoral stance and viewpoint to look at this current war. But your fellow French countryman have been screaming and flaming since the thread begins.
I don't think Napoleon was a killer, he did what he did for the interest of his country and his legacy of course.

Honestly , he is not close to what we will think is a killer compared to the Mongols during the Yuan Dynasty.

Yes totally xD the mongols litterally killed 10% of humanity at the time. It modified carbon % on earth xD

E/ about this other guy french guy I wont defend him just cuz he's french.. did not read what he said but if it was dumb I agree to say it was dumb xd

This post was edited by Youshould on Jul 30 2023 06:48am

first effective users of biological warfare.
If you are that interested in History and the current drama in Ukraine , I suggest you should consider a Realpolitik stance in this topic.

Some of these names might be familiar to you.
Otto von Bismarck, Henry Kissinger, George F. Kennan, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Hans-Dietrich Genscher, as well as politicians such as Charles De Gaulle and Lee Kuan Yew



You will be surprised........

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Jul 30 2023 06:50am

Yes. If you check genetics of most europeans TODAY you can find mongol DNA

Staline & Mao's Purges scored very good, are much closer in time, and their associated entities (elites, police state, political party) are still in place today...

Hullo

Know most of them but not Genscher. Will look it up ty sir

More recent ones will be

John Mearsheimer
Francis Fukuyama
Graham Allison
and a controversial but important Character ----> Samuel P Huntington

Recommended reading but make your own analysis. I just bought the book, was pretty hard to find in my area.

https://www.amazon.com/Clash-Civilizations-Remaking-World-Order/dp/1451628978