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Jul 21 2023 11:01am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 21 2023 12:54pm)
From what little we can parse through the fog of war, the general consensus seems to be that Ukraine attempted an armored counteroffensive mobilizing reserves and it failed miserably with heavy losses, so they abandoned trying to go over the top and instead have gone more for small tactical incursions with dismounted units and probing attacks with armor, both of which have incurred heavy losses anyway because they're just running into mine fields, artillery and drones, failing to break the first lines of a layered entrenched defender. Bakhmut seems like the most realistic target they could seize at this point. Russia is probably getting significantly higher casualties to the infantry attacks on trenches than the armor attacks that just stumbled pointlessly, but there's no way the numbers are extremely skewed against Ukraine, even moreso than the war up to this point.

Maybe its not as severe was WW1 charges into artillery and machine guns, but its not very far off either.


80% of the losses in this war are attributed to artillery. Russia has anywhere between 5:1 to 10:1 in artillery superiority.

These two figures alone should be enough to dispel any notion that somehow Russia is incurring heavier losses. At some point people need to critically think.
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Jul 21 2023 11:04am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 21 Jul 2023 19:59)
Oh ? No. Some losses during incursions and in few battles i guess, but the total losses are more likely on the Russian side (nothing new).
Explained you two times my point and did copy/pasta of Michel Goya quotes, he's a military expert & historian, retired colonel, covering ukraine since the begining of invasion. If something was going wrong for Ukraine i would know it and aknowledge it. Btw SEEMS first videos of cluster ammunitions use results are available, it's impressive and totally impossible to post here.




Very intelligent. You should even bump djunior topic on france each time i'm saying something you don't like. Posting cherry picked crap picture and saying how France ( first visited country in the world) is terrible. Will "complete" you off-topic bitching.


Actually, I do like your posts, keep it going. You are a perfect punching bag :)
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Jul 21 2023 11:06am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 21 2023 10:01am)
80% of the losses in this war are attributed to artillery. Russia has anywhere between 5:1 to 10:1 in artillery superiority.

These two figures alone should be enough to dispel any notion that somehow Russia is incurring heavier losses. At some point people need to critically think.


Napoleon, who was considered the master of artillery and revolutionized its use in warfare, couldn't beat the Russians.

Says alot of Russian artillery power

This post was edited by El1te on Jul 21 2023 11:06am
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Jul 21 2023 11:07am
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80% of the losses in this war are attributed to artillery. Russia has anywhere between 5:1 to 10:1 in artillery superiority.

These two figures alone should be enough to dispel any notion that somehow Russia is incurring heavier losses. At some point people need to critically think.


Yeah, It's very, very, possible that your conclusion is straight wrong like explained here:

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-artillery-does-more-damage-with-fewer-rounds-than-russia-2023-4

or here

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/07/11/ukraine-is-winning-the-artillery-war-by-destroying-four-russian-howitzers-for-every-howitzer-it-loses

etc

"And the advantage will only continue to grow."

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jul 21 2023 11:26am
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Jul 21 2023 11:14am
Quote (Norlander @ 21 Jul 2023 17:04)
Actually, I do like your posts, keep it going. You are a perfect punching bag :)


Oh, let me know when you are exhausted

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Jul 21 2023 11:14am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 21 2023 10:07am)


"Your opinion is wrong as detailed in these pro-Ukraine propaganda articles"

Use your head man
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Jul 21 2023 11:16am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 21 Jul 2023 20:14)
Oh, let me know when you are exhausted

https://c.tenor.com/A2s9A2vWNOAAAAAM/punching-bag.gif


I'll play along, look what I brought :)
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Jul 21 2023 11:23am
https://swww.express.co.uk/news/world/1628677/ukraine-russia-news-putin-food-famine-threat-Margarita-Simonyan-western-sanctions-vn
'All our hope is in the famine' Putin puppet gloats over Russian tactic to end sanctions
==> weird

Quote (El1te @ 21 Jul 2023 17:14)
"Your opinion is wrong as detailed in these pro-Ukraine propaganda articles"
Use your head man

To be honest the guy gone to the hospital and had lip stitches because I badly targeted his nose <_<
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Jul 21 2023 11:24am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 21 2023 12:07pm)


Ukraine is particularly effective in using howitzers to shoot cruise missiles out of the sky and slingshots with water balloons to intercept ICBMs.
At least /r/pyongyang has some self awareness
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Jul 21 2023 11:34am
Quote (Goomshill @ 21 Jul 2023 17:24)
Ukraine is particularly effective in using howitzers to shoot cruise missiles out of the sky and slingshots with water balloons to intercept ICBMs.
At least /r/pyongyang has some self awareness


I am suspecting they first want to weaken Russian artillery.
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