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Jul 21 2023 09:09am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jul 21 2023 07:41am)
I think not all Democrats although I am not familiar about US politics but just on the surface....
Are there any Democrats that are opposed or fought against this proxy war ?


Tankies are generally against it. You'd be surprised at how often I get mistaken on other sites as a Marxist. I mean, I do support nationalizing healthcare, but I own one more cow than my neighbor so that makes me a kulak.
That's about it, and its not like "progressives" are anything but an empty shell of an ideology that's being puppeteered by the neoliberals anyway. I mean jesus christ, look what they did to the Wellstone Foundation
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Jul 21 2023 09:15am
The insidious French: first they invent communism, then they fight it, first they enslave a continent, and then they fight for the rights of indigenous.
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Jul 21 2023 09:24am
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The insidious French: first they invent communism, then they fight it, first they enslave a continent, and then they fight for the rights of indigenous.


"Imagine" if, unlike some others mysterious entities, France has evolved in the last 100 years.
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Jul 21 2023 09:28am
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"Imagine" if, unlike some others mysterious entities, France has evolved in the last 100 years.


Sad that you have to degrade prior to such a "evolution"
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Jul 21 2023 09:59am
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Sad that you have to degrade prior to such a "evolution"


Evolved since 1970 either. I think there's nothing wrong in expecting a collapse of the russian regime. It's a small group maintaining the corrupted structure.
Democraties aren't perfect and US is far from being the best example, but these kleptocracies... Jesus they even managed to impersonate, to destroy, their own intellectuals & culture.

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"Imagine" if, unlike some others mysterious entities, France has evolved in the last 100 years.


Paris "evolved" into a caliphate
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Jul 21 2023 10:25am
Few centuries later, the descendants of the caliphate will try to secede from France and call their brand new country "Le Borderland". The borderlanders will claim that their capital city, Paris is three thousands years older than new capital of France, Grigny, and therefore they are Galls, Romans and Franks combined. And Norlander2 will discuss it on d5jsp in fluid Chinese.
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Jul 21 2023 10:38am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 20 2023 03:20pm)
I'm afraid you are talking about the first incursions only, What do you have to say about the quote i posted ?


It's an offensive and the Russians are losing equipment defending against a push where the Ukrainians are throwing everything up till and including the kitchen sink.

From what I've read, the Ukrainians have lost a lot.
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Jul 21 2023 10:54am
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It's an offensive and the Russians are losing equipment defending against a push where the Ukrainians are throwing everything up till and including the kitchen sink.

From what I've read, the Ukrainians have lost a lot.


From what little we can parse through the fog of war, the general consensus seems to be that Ukraine attempted an armored counteroffensive mobilizing reserves and it failed miserably with heavy losses, so they abandoned trying to go over the top and instead have gone more for small tactical incursions with dismounted units and probing attacks with armor, both of which have incurred heavy losses anyway because they're just running into mine fields, artillery and drones, failing to break the first lines of a layered entrenched defender. Bakhmut seems like the most realistic target they could seize at this point. Russia is probably getting significantly higher casualties to the infantry attacks on trenches than the armor attacks that just stumbled pointlessly, but there's no way the numbers are extremely skewed against Ukraine, even moreso than the war up to this point.

Maybe its not as severe was WW1 charges into artillery and machine guns, but its not very far off either.
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It's an offensive and the Russians are losing equipment defending against a push where the Ukrainians are throwing everything up till and including the kitchen sink.
From what I've read, the Ukrainians have lost a lot.


Oh ? No. Some losses during incursions and in few battles i guess, but the total losses are more likely on the Russian side (nothing new).
Explained you two times my point and did copy/pasta of Michel Goya quotes, he's a military expert & historian, retired colonel, covering ukraine since the begining of invasion. If something was going wrong for Ukraine's military i would know it and aknowledge it. Yet if here's something to worry about it's this massive amount of russian soldiers in north east, no major news about it atm.
Btw SEEMS first videos of cluster ammunitions use results are available, it's impressive and totally impossible to post here.

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Paris "evolved" into a caliphate

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Few centuries later, the descendants of the caliphate will try to secede from France and call their brand new country "Le Borderland". The borderlanders will claim that their capital city, Paris is three thousands years older than new capital of France, Grigny, and therefore they are Galls, Romans and Franks combined. And Norlander2 will discuss it on d5jsp in fluid Chinese.


Very intelligent. You should even bump djunior topic on france each time i'm saying something you don't like. Posting cherry picked crap picture and saying how France ( first visited country in the world) is terrible. Will "complete" you off-topic bitching.

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