Quote (dro94 @ Apr 3 2022 05:41pm)

No, you don't. The evidence at this point clearly suggests war crimes have been committed, and you have been giving excuses for an illegal invasion for the past 5 weeks, shifting aggressive actions by Russia as the West's fault

Quote (ferdia @ 3 Apr 2022 23:35)

I think i already said it a few pages ago. In war, both sides commit war crimes, and the worse things get the worse the crimes, thats the reality. it is clearly getting alot worse and its the leading narrative across the planet relating to the war. In the aftermath of the current changing situaiton, more is coming to light.

Israel: UK, Germany threaten new sanctions after alleged Bucha massacre
Ireland: West voices horror as mass graves discovered in Ukraine
England (BBC): As Moscow's forces retreat from areas near Kyiv, evidence of civilian killings is mounting. Reporters in the town of Bucha, outside Kyiv, have found at least 20 bodies strewn in the streets. Germany condemns a "terrible war crime". France's President Macron calls pictures from the scene "unbearable". The UK PM says "despicable attacks" are evidence of war crimes. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken describes scenes of bodies on the street as a "punch to the gut"
Germany (Spiegel): The Ukrainians have liberated the town of Trostyanets following a month of Russian occupation. The occupiers left behind destruction, dead civilians and a shaken populace – who say the Russian soldiers didn't even know why they were there in the first place.
China: Xi: Ukraine peace talks vital
Al Jazeera: Russia-Ukraine live news: UN chief urges independent Bucha probe

Human Rights Watch: (Warsaw) – Human Rights Watch has documented several cases of Russian military forces committing laws-of-war violations against civilians in occupied areas of the Chernihiv, Kharkiv, and Kyiv regions of Ukraine. These include a case of repeated rape; two cases of summary execution, one of six men, the other of one man; and other cases of unlawful violence and threats against civilians between February 27 and March 14, 2022. Soldiers were also implicated in looting civilian property, including food, clothing, and firewood. Those who carried out these abuses are responsible for war crimes.

The Sunday Times: Zelensky accuses Russia of genocide in Irpin and Bucha Massacre of ‘hundreds of civilians’ fuels calls for war crimes case against Putin

The Interceptdotcom: Amid overwhelming evidence that Russian forces have committed war crimes during an unprovoked war of aggression in Ukraine, Ukrainian officials were confronted this week with video that appeared to show Ukrainian soldiers shooting captive Russian soldiers in the legs. Although Ukraine’s senior military leader and its domestic intelligence agency both insisted that the video posted on social networks on Sunday was “a fake” produced by Russia, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy promised that the government would investigate and punish those responsible if the incident did take place. On Monday, a well-known Ukrainian journalist, Yuri Butusov, published graphic video showing the charred remains of three men he identified as Russian soldiers, as Ukrainian forces recaptured the town of Malaya Rohan, outside Kharkiv, over the weekend. Although Butusov made no mention of the video of the alleged war crime, a visual analysis of his footage shows that it was clearly filmed in the same location as the video of the prisoners being shot, some time after that incident.

All of that above should not surprise anyone, but rather it is a product of war. Because there is so much focus on this in our western world, we will hear and see alot more then if it had been somewhere in say, the middle east, or china.

Quote (ofthevoid @ 3 Apr 2022 23:08)

It is, just like maiming and torturing russian pow's. Difference today is, one is spammed all across the world as a headline meanwhile the other was barely acknowledged by the Ukrainian officials and was not even mentioned in most MSM. I get it though, there's a propaganda war happening right beside the real war. It's like during the Syria war, a dead child on a beach or ruins of Aleppo were constantly spammed in the west, meanwhile Al-Nusra fighters or as the media often called them, 'moderate rebels' were presented as freedom fighters rising up against a tyrant.

Quote (Santara @ 4 Apr 2022 00:39)

I'm not gonna cry if Nazis buy the farm. But you don't get to use this as a talking point while using Nazis in your fight.

Lol, "move to attack" with 100K commies on the border? As if.

I care about people in general, including the poor Russian slaves being sent on a fool's errand to subjugate their neighbors. People deserve to live free.



You're a Putin apologist all over this thread.

Quote (dro94 @ Apr 3 2022 03:41pm)

No, you don't. The evidence at this point clearly suggests war crimes have been committed, and you have been giving excuses for an illegal invasion for the past 5 weeks, shifting aggressive actions by Russia as the West's fault

Quote (chopstickz777 @ 4 Apr 2022 00:58)

It is the west's fault.

Step one: perform a coup in a country on Russia's border which they know will piss off the Russians.

Step two: assist said coup government with killing the locals whom just so happen to basically be ethnically Russian in large numbers, enraging Russia and the Russian people.

Step three: push said coup government into talking about joining NATO, creating a massive security threat on Russia's border.

Step four: when Russia inevitably invades because they had no other choice, paint them as the modern-day Mordor and act as if it was totally unprovoked, unexpected and unjustified.

These are the tactics the 'west' has used on Russia. Sickening, evil, and deplorable in every way.

I for one will not stand for the lies and I will not stand for the hypocrisy. Russia is justified in defending both itself and the 1.5 million residents in Donbass that were in danger of being wiped out by the likes of Azov & other neo-nazi pals.

Quote (Norlander @ Apr 4 2022 01:08am)

Where have you been for all of these 8 years stuff once again?

Quote (ofthevoid @ 3 Apr 2022 22:08)

It is, just like maiming and torturing russian pow's. Difference today is, one is spammed all across the world as a headline meanwhile the other was barely acknowledged by the Ukrainian officials and was not even mentioned in most MSM. I get it though, there's a propaganda war happening right beside the real war. It's like during the Syria war, a dead child on a beach or ruins of Aleppo were constantly spammed in the west, meanwhile Al-Nusra fighters or as the media often called them, 'moderate rebels' were presented as freedom fighters rising up against a tyrant.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Apr 4 2022 01:19am)

Russian federation of looters, rapists, and unarmed civilians mass murderers

https://thehill.com/policy/international/3257743-evidence-of-russian-war-crimes-mounts-along-with-global-outrage/

Thus i'm not surpised they act like this, these "soldiers" are living is a constant pressure of corruption and wrongdoing each others.

I think it's the whole Russian system that deserve to be erradicated.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna17121117

Rampant abuse in the nation’s armed forces. That's what i means. What can we expect from people like this ? Savages.