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Dec 24 2020 11:09am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 24 Dec 2020 16:38)
wasn't there a drama in america after the first covid wave (around time of BLM bullshit iirc), in which doctors claimed they were forced into claiming covid19 deaths for every dead person that was positive for virus, meaningless of way they died?
so we had suicides, car crashes, murders, cancer, leukemia etc. that were claimed to be "Covid-19 Deaths" because people that died tested positive on obduction?

iirc there was a talk about only 7k actual covid deaths out of 100k they claimed at that time


The governement said "ok we can pay for covid hospitalization" in a country where healthcare is a business. A test will always be done especially if the patient can't pay the million $$ bill.
Can't imagine getting caught while cheating on that.

Dont forget there's also many conditions where it's "bad" to unveil covid deaths; typically in private retirement/nursing homes.
Having cases & covid deaths is bad for business, and politics do not like it either (starting from local Mayors up to state heads) and since there's no ICU giant bill...

Nursing homes are undercounted in US. More likely in red states ?
No idea how much must be added to the grand total tho.
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Dec 24 2020 11:15am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 24 2020 09:09am)
The governement said "ok we can pay for covid hospitalization" in a country where healthcare is a business. A test will always be done especially if the patient can't pay the million $$ bill.
Can't imagine getting caught while cheating on that.

Dont forget there's also many conditions where it's "bad" to unveil covid deaths; typically in private retirement/nursing homes.
Having cases & covid deaths is bad for business, and politics do not like it either (starting from local Mayors up to state heads) and since there's no ICU giant bill...

Nursing homes are undercounted in US. More likely in red states ?
No idea how much must be added to the grand total tho.


what about the cumo state were he packed in the sick into nursing homes? did they under count that also?
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Dec 24 2020 11:15am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 24 2020 04:57pm)
no lol

Please do some research instead of just buying into conspiracy garbage.


i got a question for you! do you believe in ANY conspiracy theory? a single one will do :blush: ! not flat earth shit, but stuff like epstein, election steal 2020, operation mockingbird, that kind of stuff :unsure: !
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Dec 24 2020 11:16am
Quote (fender @ 24 Dec 2020 06:47)
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

now show me YOUR source that they are made up, show me what someone who isn't a gullible zomie like me uses to educate themselves.


Predictions are not facts. The CDC link you posted is listing predictions, not actual deaths based on current death certificates.

We don't know how many people have died in 2020 yet. 2019 death totals weren't posted until something like June 2020. There's usually a 6 month reporting delay.

Note that I'm not making any assertions about the numbers here, or validating or denying any specific viewpoint. Merely pointing out that your "source" is not listing factual deaths based solely on death certificates, but predicted deaths.

Quote (Snyft2 @ 24 Dec 2020 09:15)
i got a question for you! do you believe in ANY conspiracy theory? a single one will do :blush: ! not flat earth shit, but stuff like epstein, election steal 2020, operation mockingbird, that kind of stuff :unsure: !


He believes election steal 2016 conspiracy theories. ;)

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Dec 24 2020 11:17am
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Dec 24 2020 11:18am
Quote (Snyft2 @ Dec 24 2020 11:15am)
i got a question for you! do you believe in ANY conspiracy theory? a single one will do :blush: ! not flat earth shit, but stuff like epstein, election steal 2020, operation mockingbird, that kind of stuff :unsure: !


When conspiracy theories become substantiated they stop being called conspiracy theories, so it depends on your definition.

Like, I think it's pretty obvious that the media is manipulated by corporate interests to eliminate any consideration of opinions that would seriously change the status quo. This was done all through the 2000's by oil companies advertising to dissuade serious coverage of climate change because it would affect advertising dollars of the station and continues to be done by eliminating any discussion of serious changes to our current capitalist model.

Sinclair broadcasting group has made a specific effort to buy local stations and air conservative propaganda on them.

Both of those would be conspiracy theories, but they are well substantiated so they aren't called "conspiracy theories".

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Dec 24 2020 11:20am
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Dec 24 2020 11:19am
Quote (Snyft2 @ Dec 24 2020 09:15am)
i got a question for you! do you believe in ANY conspiracy theory? a single one will do :blush: ! not flat earth shit, but stuff like epstein, election steal 2020, operation mockingbird, that kind of stuff :unsure: !


its gaslighting. what they "believe" is "fact" everything any one else believes is automatic "conspiracy theory" so your question will not compute.
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Dec 24 2020 11:23am
Quote (TiStuff @ 24 Dec 2020 18:15)
what about the cumo state were he packed in the sick into nursing homes? did they under count that also?


It's like mixing carrots & bananas to make a pizza.

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Dec 24 2020 11:34am
Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 24 2020 11:19am)
its gaslighting. what they "believe" is "fact" everything any one else believes is automatic "conspiracy theory" so your question will not compute.


And you think conspiracy theorists don't gaslight "non-believers"? They literally tell you that researched and vetted information sources are "fAkE nEwS", and that you're "sHeEpLe" for trusting anything outside the theory.

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Dec 24 2020 11:43am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Dec 24 2020 09:34am)
And you think conspiracy theorists don't gaslight "non-believers"? They literally tell you that researched and vetted information sources are "fAkE nEwS", and that you're "sHeEpLe" for trusting anything outside the theory.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3ohhwBP5mt3fait4YM/giphy.gif


like i said, anything anybody else believes will automatically be a "conspiracy theory
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Dec 24 2020 11:47am
Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 24 2020 12:43pm)
like i said, anything anybody else believes will automatically be a "conspiracy theory


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