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Oct 27 2020 08:50am
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 27 2020 09:08am)
i do always laugh when someone pulls the "you post daily about _____" card lol

like, ya, this is pard, we're almost all here daily.


What's dumber: focusing on inconsequential things, or getting triggered by users who post inconsequential things.
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What's dumber: focusing on inconsequential things, or getting triggered by users who post inconsequential things.


All I said is who cares, that's when you got your panties in a bunch.
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You can't change the rules that would obviously favor one side and will probably make the senate be blue for many years then say a similar alteration is not the same.

No DC is not similar to states splitting but they're both similar in the sense that it would upset a long established balance of power.


DC has 3 electoral votes already, its not as if this comes from no where.

make the senate blue? idk man, if we did it right now we'd have 51 GOP, 49 DNC, 2 other. thats if poof we did it today.

also long established is a pocket of america which has no representation in congress, despite having electoral votes, and despite paying taxes (at a rather high rate).

they are only represented by 1 branch of govt out of 2.

i dont necessarily think that DC should be a state in any case.

and i know Norcal doesnt get senate representation these days, but they do vote, they just lose. DC doesnt get a vote, slight but important difference in my eyes.

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All I said is who cares, that's when you got your panties in a bunch.


nah, u posted a pretty targeted and specific paragraph rant.

i mean i do that a lot, but call a spade a spade. dont act like it was a passing jibe.

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DC has 3 electoral votes already, its not as if this comes from no where.

make the senate blue? idk man, if we did it right now we'd have 51 GOP, 49 DNC, 2 other. thats if poof we did it today.

also long established is a pocket of america which has no representation in congress, despite having electoral votes, and despite paying taxes (at a rather high rate).

they are only represented by 1 branch of govt out of 2.

i dont necessarily think that DC should be a state in an case.

and i know Norcal doesnt get senate representation these days, but they do vote, they just lose. DC doesnt get a vote, slight but important difference in my eyes.


The 2 other in reality are solid blue for the next 30 years easily. So the balance of power in the Senate just went from 51-49 to 51-51. That's absolutely massive. And we know Republicans probably lose a few senate seats this time around so in reality its going to be something like 48-54. 2 Extra senate votes in the senate is massive.

All of these entities are represented in the house of reps fairly accurately but to me this is an attempt at a power grab in the senate, a pretty blatant one that like I said would make the senate be majority blue for a really long time.

Northern California, upstate NY, Southern Oregon, etc are also only represented by 1 branch out of the 2 tbh, despite paying high taxes, despite having electoral votes.

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Damn. She's actually garbage, lol. Oh well, we wifed it.
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The 2 other in reality are solid blue for the next 30 years easily. So the balance of power in the Senate just went from 51-49 to 51-51. That's absolutely massive. And we know Republicans probably lose a few senate seats this time around so in reality its going to be something like 48-54. 2 Extra senate votes in the senate is massive.

All of these entities are represented in the house of reps fairly accurately but to me this is an attempt at a power grab in the senate, a pretty blatant one that like I said would make the senate be majority blue for a really long time.

Northern California, upstate NY, Southern Oregon, etc are also only represented by 1 branch out of the 2 tbh, despite paying high taxes, despite having electoral votes.


they aren't represented by 1/2 tho. they just dont have the votes. otherwise that logic drops us into places where over half of america isn't represented, and it just a bit of a moot point then.

barriers to representation via votes isnt the same as actual non representation, aka the thing we revolted because of against King George.

but just look at the last few senates and add 2 to democrats, results are world breaking:

115th Congress (2017-2019)
Majority Party: Republican (51 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (47 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucused with the Democrats)

= gop mandate still

114th Congress (2015-2017)
Majority Party: Republican (54 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucused with the Democrats)

= gop mandate still

113th Congress (2013-2015)
Majority Party: Democrat (53 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucused with the Democrats)

= dnc mandate, no super majority

112th Congress (2011-2013)
Majority Party: Democrat (51 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (47 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat (both caucused with the Democrats)

= dnc mandate, no super majority

111th Congress (2009-2011)
Majority Party: Democrat (57 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (41 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat (both caucused with the Democrats)

= dnc mandate, w/ super majority (note, they were already 59/60 to a super majority anyways)

110th Congress (2007-2009)
Majority Party: Democrat (49 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (49 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat (both caucused with the Democrats)

= dnc mandate, no super majority

109th Congress (2005-2007)
Majority Party: Republican (55 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)
Other Parties: Independent (1 seat) (caucused with the Democrats)

= gop mandate still




and of course none of this happens in a vaccuum, who knows how many more seats the GOP could muster by fear mongering over a DC swamp takeover of senate and push a few purple states back into the redzone.

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Damn. She's actually garbage, lol. Oh well, we wifed it.


>Motherjones

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>Motherjones

LOL


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DC cannot be a state. I suggest we give the land back to Maryland.

Puerto Rico is fine, but they should also give representation to Northern California.


DC can easily be a state. All they do is basically draw a circle around the various state buildings and then turn everything else into a state. We currently have a lot of people who have no representation in Congress. I think they started trying back in like the 60s.
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