Quote (Thor123422 @ 2 Apr 2019 09:23)
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Gay marriage
Climate change
Trans rights will 100% be regarded in the same way in twenty years
Dont be stupid dude, conservatism is about maintaining previously established norms and hierarchies. They oppose expansion of rights every time it comes up because the maintenance of hierarchies has been its defining feature for literally its entire existence (modern conservatism originated from writers defending the monarchies of Europe during and after the French Revolution)
I'll agree on gay marriage.
When it comes to climate change, the question is mostly how to react to it. It's not a settled issue, and will take a couple of additional decades before we can fairly assess whether the approach of the political left from the 2010s (panic, calls for deindustrialization, demobilization and sacrifice) was the correct one or not.
There is a big difference between granting trans people basic civic rights, like for example choosing their gender in their passport, and granting them special treatment. Do we really have to change every public bathroom to accomodate a tiny minority making up less than 1% of the population, like for example New York is already doing? And does acceptance of trans
gender people necessarily have to entail allowing people of the opposite
sex to infringe on the privacy of others in locker rooms? And what about those ridiculous cases of transgender persons with the size and body structure of a man competing in women's sports?

At least some aspects surrounding the transgender debate are a good example for my point that whatever the liberals/progressives/leftists are supporting does not necessarily have to be progress.
Which is also my answer to your comparison with post-revolution france. Back then, the conservatives were supporting a bad and lost cause. But support for such causes isnt limited to conservatives, just look at those leftists which still support communism despite ample historic counterexamples.
At the end of the day, there simply is no automatism making
any change and
any progressive policies a step in the right direction. In fact, they can very well be a step backwards. Ideology-driven approaches to climate change, a silly implementation of transgender rights and many affirmative action programs are examples of such progressive causes which are going in the wrong direction. Celebrating
any kind of diversity without regard for cultural compatibility and integration success is another example.
"Progressive = good, conservative = bad" is a simplistic and naive worldview. As is "progressive = bad, conservative = good".
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 2 2019 10:35pm