Quote (Goomshill @ Jul 19 2023 10:43am)
Whats the point of imagining ideal outcomes anyway. There's what will happen, and our best guess at it, and what will never happen. The dead won't all miraculously spring back to life, the warring sides embrace one another and sing kumbayah and live in peace and harmony while in a flash of light all fat chicks worldwide are replaced by supermodels who take up being full time blowjob specialists.
Its been foreseeable for nearly a year now that the most likely outcome to this war will be a ceasefire and peace deal that freezes the lines more or less where they are now, with Russian controlling the ethnic Russian separatist regions and Crimea, and NATO controlling west and central Ukraine. Is that anyone's ideal outcome? But there's no reason to think it will end otherwise. If years of attrition will change it, it probably won't be in favor of the west.
What people conceptualize for their answer is very telling.