This is exactly what I'm trying to get at by asking the question. My sense is that there are quite a few people in PaRD who are pro-Russia.

I would divide the "pro-russian" side in two groups:

- Those who are personally directly or indirectly concerned (russian family, interests, nationality...) => They would hardly admit their own bias and will prefer to bitch on U.S and the whole West, also arguing alot about "both sides"...
- The "anti-west" basically westerners themselves, which largely includes the "anti-all" alt right wing => Same, they will hardly admit to openly side with Putin's Russia ideology, and deflect on blaming non-stop on the west & nato.


In both cases, as you can see, it's pretty hard to obtain a clear position because in practice it's hazardous to defend Putin's Russia's war crimes. It's much easier to circle jerk on "Ukrainians are nazis- post 1 photo- facts" or "U.S killed alot of civilians 20 years ago in Iraq"

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jul 19 2023 11:24am

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1679819363266830342?t=I3pjmfC9puoll5W6JOjgpw&s=19

after millions fled the country (and many wont return) and hundreds of thousands of young men getting sent to their deaths in a proxy war over some dirt in eastern ukraine, the kiev independent already talks about ukraine needing 4,5 million workers in the next 10 years

so who exactly will that be? who wants to move to a post war, hyper corrupt gangster state?

or in other words, have fun with some third world migration in the future

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/18/ukraine-and-the-west-are-facing-a-devastating-defeat/

looks like ukraine is totally beating the orcs when the mainstream media is already posting that kind of article

And? It's a victory? Explain?




Ferdia pointed out that you don't even read (or understand) your own source, lol

--> Most of the Ukrainian grain went to high-income countries.

Also you don't seem to understand that when a deal is struck (the Grain Deal in this case), then both sides need to keep word.

Ukraine could export their grain but Russian grain and fertilizer shipments are still blocked or even confiscated in Western ports like this ship in France https://www.lemonde.fr/en/m-le-mag/article/2023/05/22/the-russian-cargo-ship-endlessly-blocked-in-the-french-port-of-saint-malo_6027539_117.html#

I don't know if you realize but all people here can look up the facts and realize that YOU are posting trash

You can hope Russia wins without being pro Russia. All you need to do is recognize the entire situation was created by the US starting with actions taken following 9/11.

well theres the whole insurance market that forbids it anyway. But no reason to think Turkey would intervene, that was twitter nonsense. These ports are under hostile siege, the grain deal was the exception and now its closed.

Most people here that YOU call pro-Russia are simply pointing out that the war could've been entirely avoided and that NATO should've known better.

And some clowns (including you) are thinking they're superior to all other countries / political systems in the world and that they would teach that "gas station masquerading as a country" a lesson, humiliate them and dismantle them.

SMH

This post was edited by Djunior on Jul 19 2023 11:39am

Grain prices will increase, everything i said is 100% correct. Btw I am not responsible if some dumbfucks don't know the World Food Program:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Food_Programme
Alot of it is in direction of countries like Ethiopia, Yemen, Afghanistan.

More trash here:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=647781318

But this one is the most hilarious

I am not an economist, but, is it normal ?

what appeals to me is consistency in time.



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jul 19 2023 11:42am