another peaceful protest that got sidetracked into mostly not violence by an idea known as #klantifa

Reports are that the victim is dead, antifa shooter is in custody

will harris and biden be asked to disavow this idea that led to the victim dying?

the dead patriot wasn't black so naw

neither is biden? oh wait that’s right, HE decides who is black or not just ask him

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/10/10/denver-protests-saturday-civic-center-park/
significant update to the story

apparently the shooter was a security guard for local media, who shot and killed a patriot rally protester
the moment of the shooting was captured by other local media who were eyewitnesses



The shooter was a security guard for 9News of Denver, and both he and another 9News employee were taken into custody
The victim was one of the Patriot Rally attendees
The shooting took place just as Patriot Rally attendees were walking down a street and being pelted with soup cans by Antifa, and there was some argument which the journalists and/or guard may have taken part in
The police think the shooter has no connection to Antifa, but that apparently means insofar as he was there with the media, not the antifa ralliers, but in the past that line has been thin or nonexistent so I'd take that with a grain of salt

At any rate, it appears that the media murdered a protester

This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 10 2020 08:31pm

the argument just prior to the shooting was also captured on video, but the shooting occurs just off-camera so its not graphic:

https://streamable.com/7dxisx

And I suppose I should link the 9News article:
https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/shooting-near-dueling-rallies-denver-2-in-custody/73-6890f727-e44a-4a60-a777-a6fbe0730e0e

One of the old axioms of ethical journalism was once "Don't make yourself part of the story"
I gotta hand it to 9News here
In Trump's America, journalists kill citizens



This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 10 2020 08:45pm

I'm a softy SJW. Guns really spook me, but I think that's because I just dislike how strong of a weapon they are and how non-seriously it seems so many gun owners perceive the weapon. Fully aware that the majority of gun owners are responsible, safe, and level-headed people. However, it freaks me out that people are able to own something so lethal and how in so many of these recorded incidences, the shooter discharges the weapon seemingly so casually.

I can't imagine owning a gun in general, but if I did it would be an absolute last resort for imminently life-threatening threats in which de-escalation, disarming, fleeing, or otherwise incapacitating someone isn't viable.

Can't believe that person shot someone over being pepper sprayed.

On the contrary, there seems to be at least two big camps of gun culture in the US. The very responsible owners, whom you would probably never knew owned a gun that you refer to, and then the ultra-materialist gun owners. The kind who obsess about them, mod them, join a militia, pump up their national pride, carry high powered rifles at political events, studies the stand-your-ground law so they are ready to murder. Basically, gun owners looking for a target, vs gun owners looking for a tool to stay safe.

Just wondering if having a family/wife/child would change your view on owning a gun? For me, we got a rifle once we moved out to the country. Something to ward off nuisance animals and would-be robber for 15-20 until real authority comes.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Oct 10 2020 09:12pm