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Jul 17 2023 12:20pm
Quote (ferdia @ 18 Jul 2023 01:55)
I assume he has been killed.

it makes no sense that he is completely radio silent.

look, its irrelevant right ? as always you dont have to agree, i was just musing over it.




Isn't he in Belarus ?
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 17 Jul 2023 14:20)
^Dizzybusiness

Isn't he in Belarus ?


Yeah he is, there was a recent photo of him on a bunk bed in a training camp.

He seems to have played his part in providing casus belli for internal purges within the army.

Not sure what to make of Wagners place in Ukraine after this whole shebang.
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Jul 17 2023 12:27pm
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 17 2023 02:55pm)
I assume he has been killed.

it makes no sense that he is completely radio silent.

look, its irrelevant right ? as always you dont have to agree, i was just musing over it.


Lol ok, just weird to muse about it and then get defensive over simple questions

I don't need reminders that I can disagree btw, just for future reference.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jul 17 2023 03:20pm)
^Dizzybusiness

Isn't he in Belarus ?


Apparently, I don't know for sure, I trust nothing i read about Prigozhin lol


This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Jul 17 2023 12:29pm
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Quote (Malopox @ 18 Jul 2023 02:26)
Yeah he is, there was a recent photo of him on a bunk bed in a training camp.

He seems to have played his part in providing casus belli for internal purges within the army.

Not sure what to make of Wagners place in Ukraine after this whole shebang.


The picture seems like some sort of propaganda showing his demise.
I bet he is drinking Romanee Conti after the picture is taken. :lol:
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Jul 17 2023 12:42pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 17 2023 07:27pm)
Lol ok, just weird to muse about it and then get defensive over simple questions

I don't need reminders that I can disagree btw, just for future reference.



Apparently, I don't know for sure, I trust nothing i read about Prigozhin lol
https://i.imgur.com/ttQbbDh.jpg


some users get triggered over words or phrases and read too much into things. I will at times try to be more clear on a position with this in mind.
there are multiple examples of users in the thread that literally fall off the deep end when they read something they dont like.

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jul 17 2023 03:39pm)
The picture seems like some sort of propaganda showing his demise.
I bet he is drinking Romanee Conti after the picture is taken. :lol:


Lol probably, I always assumed that was the case with his Bakhmut TikTok updates as well.
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Jul 17 2023 02:37pm
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 17 2023 08:55pm)
I assume he has been killed.

it makes no sense that he is completely radio silent.

look, its irrelevant right ? as always you dont have to agree, i was just musing over it.


Could it be that part of the deal is staying silent? Prigozhin did have a following, at least from what i gathered. He probably also knew how he is intertwined with the Kremlin gang and i think that he knew his odds before his small adventure (yet still seemingly failed). People in Rostov seemed to be very welcoming to Wagner based on a few videos ive seen, as well.

Would make sense to have Prigozhin get not what he wanted, but something good enough to keep him satisfied considering his latest circumstances, yet still be made to know his place. He doesnt seem like the guy who really needs any publicity, but just enjoys trolling and luxury

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Could it be that part of the deal is staying silent? Prigozhin did have a following, at least from what i gathered. He probably also knew how he is intertwined with the Kremlin gang and i think that he knew his odds before his small adventure (yet still seemingly failed). People in Rostov seemed to be very welcoming to Wagner based on a few videos ive seen, as well.

Would make sense to have Prigozhin get not what he wanted, but something good enough to keep him satisfied considering his latest circumstances, yet still be made to know his place. He doesnt seem like the guy who really needs any publicity, but just enjoys trolling and luxury


I cant for the live of my understand the events. just an irrelevant filler episode, it remains to be seen if it changes the ending or not (probably not).
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Quote (ferdia @ 17 Jul 2023 22:45)
I cant for the live of my understand the events. just an irrelevant filler episode, it remains to be seen if it changes the ending or not (probably not).


It is also often better to keep one alive than dead, to expose the submission. Especially since he submitted very publicly, and now with his silence.
I would perfectly consider the possibility of him being executed, but why he did not left Russia or Belarus ? If threatened he could also have maintained an high level of tik tok communication since his life could depends of it.

Yet I may consider the mediator position of Putin which would also:
A. Showing no merci, being reckless, but also risking an hard counter-reaction from all other elite, especially his own yes-men and allies who could turn against him / being defiant.
B. Demonstrating an hability to act moderately, to balance powers, not triggering panic through elites: Because what the russian people thinks is peanuts for them, what is important is the reaction of elites and their network.

So nope, I cannot be so sure he was or will be executed soon enough. Thus he could be, but much later or if Putin starts to be really desperate in maintaining his authority.

Because, like i explained, killing him could be a proof of weakness.





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Killing a man can turn him into a martyr. Letting him live, tells the world he’s a coward or a turncoat.
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