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Jul 17 2023 10:46am
Pro Russian accounts have recently been fawning over an upgraded Lancet drone that was covered and reported on Russia's main TV channel. Amongst some of the upgrades it includes a multiple drone launch system as well as ability to create a 'Swarm of Drones' where drones can basically relay back multiple targets and have ability to 'smart' target hardware based on armor type/payload of the kamikaze drone, etc.

It's mostly propaganda for domestic audiences but IMO I think expectation is Russia will ramp up it's drone production as well as come up with new ways to improve them. It's really not that far fetched given how effective drones have been during this war.

There's a 14 minute video here directly from the Russian channel. I'd fast forward about half way through the video, the upgrades are mentioned in the 2nd part of it.

https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1680665022383505408?s=20

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jul 17 2023 11:03am
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Jul 17 2023 10:51am
Quote (Malopox @ 17 Jul 2023 18:22)
Are you doing the Goebbels impersonation again pierre? Don’t get too carried away with your nazi fantasies.

/edit: in fact we probably should have a discussion whether to petition to have your access to PARD removed. Majority of your posts add nothing to any of the discussions except inciting hatred, racism and posting gore which you somehow get away with.

Mods ban these multis that drop by once in a while spewing hatred and racism in broken english. Why you continue to dodge the same fate eludes me.


... And maybe you want some "irradiated croissants" on the top of your cow dung cake, Grukk ?
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Jul 17 2023 10:59am
Let's talk about Ukraine's agression by Russia instead of bitching on what U.S did 10 or 70 years ago:

Insubordination among commanders appears to be spreading to some of their soldiers.

Insubordination among commanders appears to be spreading to some of their soldiers. Russian milbloggers shared an audio excerpt on July 16 in which the alleged elements of the 7th VDV Division threatened that they would withdraw from their positions in occupied Kherson Oblast if the Russian MoD arrests Teplinsky or threatens his life.[14] The elements of the 7th VDV Division also claimed that they would defend Teplinsky against the Russian MoD and asserted that the high command is targeting Russia’s most combat effective commanders. This audio appeal, if legitimate, is a threat of mass desertion in the face of the enemy on behalf of Teplinsky. Desertion in the face of the enemy is a capital offense in many militaries. The VDV servicemen are blackmailing the Russian MoD to ensure that Teplinsky continues to command troops in Ukraine, despite Teplinsky’s previous affiliation with Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin who had led an armed rebellion on June 24 to overthrow Shoigu and Gerasimov.[15]

( https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-16-2023 )

=> Pretty good news for Ukraine when it appears here is that russian army is blatantly showing cracks, but yet what we are expecting is that Shoigou and others uncompetent and corrupted yes-men & putin loyalists stay in charge as long as possible.


Popov’s leaked audio recording demonstrated a striking resemblance to Teplinsky’s appeals as it portrayed Popov’s insubordination as an attempt to improve conditions for 58th CAA’s servicemen. Popov did not claim responsibility for leaking the audio recording, however, he likely intended to evoke similar support for himself as the voice of opposition to the Russian MoD among servicemen and veterans of the 58th CAA. Both Teplinsky and Popov demanded radical changes in the Russian conduct of the war – that, however necessary they might be, are impossible for Gerasimov or Shoigu to execute given Putin’s unrealistic demands for the war effort, constraints on Russian mobilization, and the Russian MoD’s persistent incompetence. Putin reportedly signed a decree deploying Popov to Syria on July 14 on Gerasimov’s recommendation.[21] ISW assessed on April 30 that the Kremlin demoted several commanders by transferring their responsibilities from combat in Ukraine to Syria or Nagorno-Karabakh and that these apparent demotions leave open the possibility that these commanders could return to Putin’s favor.[22]

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Jul 17 2023 11:02am
On an aside, to my mind Yevgeny Prigozhin was killed. it looks very self evident based on my understanding of the situation.
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Jul 17 2023 11:13am
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On an aside, to my mind Yevgeny Prigozhin was killed. it looks very self evident based on my understanding of the situation.


He could be just exiled or silenced, after all Putin's grand father was a "chief" too (Staline's chief)...
Imho it's very possible that Prigozhin had not much other choice than criticizing MOD or getting his head hammered by his own men for betraying them. Maybe even Putin can understand this.
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Jul 17 2023 11:14am
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 17 2023 02:02pm)
On an aside, to my mind Yevgeny Prigozhin was killed. it looks very self evident based on my understanding of the situation.


Based off what
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Jul 17 2023 11:14am
to clarify, On an aside, to my mind Yevgeny Prigozhin was killed on the express order of Putin. it looks very self evident based on my understanding of the situation.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 17 2023 06:14pm)
Based off what


He undermined Putin. That cannot stand, no matter how good they got on with each other. This is an opinion, you dont have to agree. Also, again, this is not judgemental, i am not condemning Putin, I am stating what I believe to be true. morality is the first casualty of war.

I dont know what that means for Wagner.

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Jul 17 2023 11:53am
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 17 2023 02:14pm)
to clarify, On an aside, to my mind Yevgeny Prigozhin was killed on the express order of Putin. it looks very self evident based on my understanding of the situation.



He undermined Putin. That cannot stand, no matter how good they got on with each other. This is an opinion, you dont have to agree. Also, again, this is not judgemental, i am not condemning Putin, I am stating what I believe to be true. morality is the first casualty of war.

I dont know what that means for Wagner.


Ok but is there any evidence at all that he has been killed? Or do you mean you assume he will be killed?

Also seems kind of strange to give him a slap on the wrist officially and then have him killed doesn't it?
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Jul 17 2023 11:55am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 17 2023 06:53pm)
Ok but is there any evidence at all that he has been killed? Or do you mean you assume he will be killed?

Also seems kind of strange to give him a slap on the wrist officially and then have him killed doesn't it?


I assume he has been killed.

it makes no sense that he is completely radio silent.

look, its irrelevant right ? as always you dont have to agree, i was just musing over it.
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Jul 17 2023 12:08pm
Some crack:

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