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Apr 3 2022 01:32pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ 3 Apr 2022 22:20)
The key point is that they cannot reinforce either the troops that are getting wiped out as we speak in Mariupol nor can they reinforce the massive Donbass battalion soldiers that are already encircled near the city of Donetsk.

They can reinforce other areas, but they cannot reinforce the areas where their troops are getting wiped out and where reinforcements are most badly needed, because it is already too late for them.

Russia is fighting their battles WW2-style, slowly and calmly partitioning parts of the enemy, picking off pieces of their military one by one, to be eventually encircled and destroyed, or forced to surrender.

There are some 60-80 thousand Ukrainian soldiers that are already screwed, about to be wiped out and which the Ukrainian army is as of now completely incapable of supporting beyond sending in a few civilian cars worth of material at a time, which have the highest chance of not being shot at during the way in. But this is not enough to support such a large force.

Destroying this hostile grouping will ensure the absolute safety of Donetsk and Luhansk, which is one of the main goals of the Russian operation. After that, it's anybody's guess what will happen.


You should use quotation marks speaking about Donbass and Azov batallions. Some people are really thinking they are batallion-sized. For example, Azov batallion is a regiment for like 7 years (translate, Полк Азов), Donbass is even bigger.

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Quote (Norlander @ Apr 3 2022 02:32pm)
You should use quotation marks speaking about Donbass and Azov batallions. Some people are really thinking they are batallion-sized. For example, Azov batallion is a regiment for like 7 years (translate, Полк Азов), Donbass is even bigger.


And you should take Putin's dick out yo mouth.
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Apr 3 2022 01:35pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 3 2022 07:19pm)
Where did I defend this dawg? Even if they were soldiers and/or civilians who were fighting the Russians they don't deserve the fate of a bullet to the back of the head.



I don't know the full details and all of details that are coming out are from Ukrainian sources but it seems most of the victims are men. If what you say is true that they were simply civilians who failed to escape in time, then it makes little sense that it would be only men left in the villages? Women & kids somehow escaped in time but the men didn't, idk doesn't add up to me.

To me the most believable scenario here is these were Ukrainians who were fighting the Russians, probably got captured, and when the Russians decided to pull back from the Kiev flank, instead of leaving a bunch of POW's who most likely might pick up arms against them again, they just killed them in cold blood. What's the alternative, you either let them free and the continue to fight or haul them back to Russia?


I don't think that's the answer, as it's clear some of those people had been dead for a while. Some women and children would also have been there, but presumably most would not have been killed (TBC)

I just think they're trying to annihilate Ukrainian resistance in the long term. Destroying military and economic infrastructure, killing as many men of fighting age as possible, and reducing cities to rubble. It makes a lot of sense in the context of Putin's 'Ukraine isn't even a country' speech

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 3 2022 07:20pm)
The key point is that they cannot reinforce either the troops that are getting wiped out as we speak in Mariupol nor can they reinforce the massive Donbass battalion soldiers that are already encircled near the city of Donetsk.

They can reinforce other areas, but they cannot reinforce the areas where their troops are getting wiped out and where reinforcements are most badly needed, because it is already too late for them.

Russia is fighting their battles WW2-style, slowly and calmly partitioning parts of the enemy, picking off pieces of their military one by one, to be eventually encircled and destroyed, or forced to surrender.

There are some 60-80 thousand Ukrainian soldiers that are already screwed, about to be wiped out and which the Ukrainian army is as of now completely incapable of supporting beyond sending in a few civilian cars worth of material at a time, which have the highest chance of not being shot at during the way in. But this is not enough to support such a large force.

Destroying this hostile grouping will ensure the absolute safety of Donetsk and Luhansk, which is one of the main goals of the Russian operation. After that, it's anybody's guess what will happen.


The JFO isn't encircled yet, we're weeks away from that happening, if it does even happen. Below is an open source map of territorial gains, you can see in the bottom right that Russian forces are in Izyum but still need to capture Slovyansk before an encirclement occurs around Severodonetsk. Izyum to Slovyansk is 50km, Slovyansk to Severedonetsk is 80km. With the JFO being highly experienced and defending this long stretch of highway, my guess is we're in for a long and attritional conflict in the Donbas



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Apr 3 2022 01:39pm
Quote (Santara @ 3 Apr 2022 22:35)
And you should take Putin's dick out yo mouth.


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Quote (Norlander @ Apr 3 2022 02:39pm)
Ladies first


If I had tits, I'd never leave the house.

Nor do I cheerlead for a murderous dictator.
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Apr 3 2022 01:46pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 3 Apr 2022 19:39)
A bunch of dead males on the front? Idk to me that's the logical conclusion no? The dead are probably a mix of Ukrainian soldiers and conscripted men.

Or what's the alternative to believe here? It was a bunch of Ukrainian males who didn't flee the Russian onslaught and Russians captured them, tied them up and put bullets in their head just for the hell of it?


I hope you realize that shooting captured soldiers in the back of the head would also be a war crime. This is not a debate about whether these captives were civilians, militias or official soldiers, this is a debate about whether executing tied up, neutralized captives is a war crime. And the answer is unequivocally yes.
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Apr 3 2022 01:50pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 3 2022 09:20pm)
The key point is that they cannot reinforce either the troops that are getting wiped out as we speak in Mariupol nor can they reinforce the massive Donbass battalion soldiers that are already encircled near the city of Donetsk.

They can reinforce other areas, but they cannot reinforce the areas where their troops are getting wiped out and where reinforcements are most badly needed, because it is already too late for them.

Russia is fighting their battles WW2-style, slowly and calmly partitioning parts of the enemy, picking off pieces of their military one by one, to be eventually encircled and destroyed, or forced to surrender.

There are some 60-80 thousand Ukrainian soldiers that are already screwed, about to be wiped out and which the Ukrainian army is as of now completely incapable of supporting beyond sending in a few civilian cars worth of material at a time, which have the highest chance of not being shot at during the way in. But this is not enough to support such a large force.

Destroying this hostile grouping will ensure the absolute safety of Donetsk and Luhansk, which is one of the main goals of the Russian operation. After that, it's anybody's guess what will happen.


its indeed world war two style, incompetent leadership, no regard for men or equipment, high casualties, war crimes

sounds familiar indeed
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Apr 3 2022 01:52pm
Quote (Santara @ 3 Apr 2022 22:42)
If I had tits, I'd never leave the house.

Nor do I cheerlead for a murderous dictator.


I bet you, a 45-50 yo sofa survivor, obviously have bigger tits than anyone posting here.
I never cheerleaded Putin, Zelensky, Trump, Biden whoever you mean.
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Apr 3 2022 02:33pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 3 2022 07:46pm)
I hope you realize that shooting captured soldiers in the back of the head would also be a war crime. This is not a debate about whether these captives were civilians, militias or official soldiers, this is a debate about whether executing tied up, neutralized captives is a war crime. And the answer is unequivocally yes.


If there's an excuse as to why Russia did something bad, he'll find it. Same goes with the shill
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Apr 3 2022 02:36pm
So it's coming out now that the Ukrainians massacred a bunch of civilians in the city of Bucha after Russian forces evacuated. Anybody and everybody accused of either working with the Russians or being sympathetic to them was executed in cold blood.

Russia is outraged, they are demanding a UN meeting over this sickening provocation. They are understandably very upset.

A harsh lesson for Russia. Never again can they leave civilians at the mercy of radicals.

May all those whom were unjustly and in cold blood murdered by the fascist Ukrainians rest in peace.
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