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Jul 16 2023 02:10pm
Quote (Vastet @ Jul 16 2023 10:59pm)
America did almost nothing in WW2 your country is delusional. You helped sure, but you were not the reason the Nazi's or their allies were defeated. The UK, Australia, Canada, France (the people not so much the nation), and Russia were the primary powers that are responsible for the allied victory. You come after all of them.


Im not from America
Canada is America
We talk about the US
Youre a sad shill
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Jul 16 2023 02:12pm
Quote (Neptunus @ 16 Jul 2023 16:10)
Im not from America
Canada is America
We talk about the US
Youre a sad shill


And here you prove you're too ignorant to be worth discussing the subject with. You are also definitely an American. Maybe not by passport but by character.
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Quote (Vastet @ Jul 16 2023 11:12pm)
And here you prove you're too ignorant to be worth discussing the subject with. You are also definitely an American. Maybe not by passport but by character.


What motivates you, zealot?
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Jul 16 2023 04:03pm
America did contribute to ww2 and sacrificed many things but they were nowhere near as pivotal as the other allies or the Russians.

Hitler was stretched thin getting gang banged from all sides. His major defeat was due to the Russian cold and Stalingrad and later his own rank betrayed him. All in all a collective effort
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Jul 16 2023 05:14pm
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1680665182085824512/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1680665182085824512&currentTweetUser=djuric_zlatko

This is bad. Arestovich is proposing ceding of 20% of Ukrainian territory for the permission to join Nato West and East Germany style. For people who don't know who he is:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksii_Arestovych

The plan is unreasonable to say the least but it gives us an insight how dire the situation in Ukraine might be as of now. He is former presidential advisor, he certainly has got more insider info than the average Joe.

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Quote (Neptunus @ 16 Jul 2023 17:35)
What motivates you, zealot?


Hypocrisy, mindless drone.
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Jul 16 2023 08:19pm
Quote (Vastet @ Jul 16 2023 03:59pm)
America did almost nothing in WW2 your country is delusional. You helped sure, but you were not the reason the Nazi's or their allies were defeated. The UK, Australia, Canada, France (the people not so much the nation), and Russia were the primary powers that are responsible for the allied victory. You come after all of them.


"The Lend-Lease Act was signed into law on March 11, 1941, and ended on September 20, 1945. A total of $50.1 billion (equivalent to $719 billion in 2021) worth of supplies was shipped, or 17% of the total war expenditures of the U.S.[2] In all, $31.4 billion went to the United Kingdom, $11.3 billion to the Soviet Union, $3.2 billion to France, $1.6 billion to China, and the remaining $2.6 billion to other Allies"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#:~:text=A%20total%20of%20%2450.1%20billion,%242.6%20billion%20to%20other%20Allies


From a pure economic standpoint, and not even accounting for any military power, the US is the primary reason most of those allies (especially Russia) even kept the fight going. You can make an argument the UK wouldn't have fallen, but that's primarily because of Germany's shit navy in comparison, and the UK's superior defense position. But let's not be fooled, UK was not going to be doing anything offensive without some support. Russia just barely held on with that economic support from the US and allies. Good ol' Russian winter and overly confident German generals are where the Nazis really got their peepees slapped.

This post was edited by Mattd90 on Jul 16 2023 08:20pm
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Quote (Mattd90 @ 16 Jul 2023 22:19)
"The Lend-Lease Act was signed into law on March 11, 1941, and ended on September 20, 1945. A total of $50.1 billion (equivalent to $719 billion in 2021) worth of supplies was shipped, or 17% of the total war expenditures of the U.S.[2] In all, $31.4 billion went to the United Kingdom, $11.3 billion to the Soviet Union, $3.2 billion to France, $1.6 billion to China, and the remaining $2.6 billion to other Allies"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#:~:text=A%20total%20of%20%2450.1%20billion,%242.6%20billion%20to%20other%20Allies


From a pure economic standpoint, and not even accounting for any military power, the US is the primary reason most of those allies (especially Russia) even kept the fight going. You can make an argument the UK wouldn't have fallen, but that's primarily because of Germany's shit navy in comparison, and the UK's superior defense position. But let's not be fooled, UK was not going to be doing anything offensive without some support. Russia just barely held on with that economic support from the US and allies. Good ol' Russian winter and overly confident German generals are where the Nazis really got their peepees slapped.


You shipped to the Nazi's too don't delude yourself America was war profiteering. You get 0 credit for selling weapons and supplies to both sides. America was useless and only American's are deluded enough to think otherwise.

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Quote (Vastet @ Jul 17 2023 02:18am)
Hypocrisy, mindless drone.


Then you have issues, im afraid. The world is full of ambivalence, shades of grey rather than black and white. But certain people mistake this for hypocrisy. Difficulties socially irl?
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