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Apr 3 2022 11:56am
Quote (Santara @ 3 Apr 2022 19:53)
I saw videos of the dead in the street 3 days ago. Your refutation is fake.


Post it then. I still find it really strange when Kyevan oblast officials say that Russians left Irpin and Hostomel, no single word about dead bodies on the streets and then all of the sudden they appear.

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Apr 3 2022 12:09pm
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Post it then. I still find it really strange when Kyevan oblast officials say that Russians left Irpin and Hostomel, no single word about dead bodies on the streets and then all of the sudden they appear.


Probably just some random civvies the Ukrainians murdered and then spread around the place. I would imagine anybody living in the area formerly controlled by Russia would be considered a traitor, whether it's justified or not, and quickly killed.

The Ukrainians are bloodthirsty, most of all against their own people.
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Apr 3 2022 12:10pm
Quote (Norlander @ Apr 3 2022 12:56pm)
Post it then. I still find it really strange when Kyevan oblast officials say that Russians left Irpin and Hostomel, no single word about dead bodies on the streets and then all of the sudden they appear.


I'm not going to link gore and get 10%'d.

Go looking through the account of this journalist, it's in there: https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk

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Probably just some random civvies the Ukrainians murdered and then spread around the place. I would imagine anybody living in the area formerly controlled by Russia would be considered a traitor, whether it's justified or not, and quickly killed.

The Ukrainians are bloodthirsty, most of all against their own people.


Predictable, trying to get in front of the narrative, Ivan.

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Apr 3 2022 12:14pm
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Predictable, trying to get in front of the narrative, Ivan.


They've done it before how many times? I've lost count.

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Apr 3 2022 12:36pm
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Probably just some random civvies the Ukrainians murdered and then spread around the place. I would imagine anybody living in the area formerly controlled by Russia would be considered a traitor, whether it's justified or not, and quickly killed.

The Ukrainians are bloodthirsty, most of all against their own people.


Nah, if it's the video I recently watched then it looks more like an air strike. That guy on a bicycle :cry: may he rest in peace.
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Apr 3 2022 12:36pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 3 2022 06:14pm)
They've done it before how many times? I've lost count.


What's the Kremlin position on running away like dogs from Kyiv and Chernihiv, let me guess it was all part of the plan?
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Apr 3 2022 12:39pm
Quote (dro94 @ Apr 3 2022 01:50pm)
How do you know they were actively fighting the Russians? There's no evidence they did. Just because the government tell people to do something doesn't mean they do it


A bunch of dead males on the front? Idk to me that's the logical conclusion no? The dead are probably a mix of Ukrainian soldiers and conscripted men.

Or what's the alternative to believe here? It was a bunch of Ukrainian males who didn't flee the Russian onslaught and Russians captured them, tied them up and put bullets in their head just for the hell of it?
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Apr 3 2022 12:58pm
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What's the Kremlin position on running away like dogs from Kyiv and Chernihiv, let me guess it was all part of the plan?


I'm talking to somebody who doesn't know the first thing about military tactics, so I know this is a waste of time, but here goes.

Russia never intended for the force they sent near Kiev to actually take the city. First of all, their numbers weren't high enough and secondly, they were not equipped for it.

What these forces were intended for was to tie up all the Ukrainian troops stationed near Kiev and force them to stay there in defense of the city as they were anticipating an attack. The effect this had was to prevent these tied up Ukrainian soldiers from re-inforcing other fronts (specifically the Donbass.)

From that perspective, the operation was a success. While all those Ukrainian soldiers were pinned down in various hotspots, Russian forces took control of the city of Izyum and have successfully locked a cauldron with some 60-80 thousand Ukrainian soldiers near Donetsk that are now totally encircled and without resupply.

From a political perspective, the Kiev operation may have been intended to put pressure on Zelensky and pals. But since Ze is a puppet who takes orders from Biden, this did not work. From the political perspective, this could be considered a minor, but not serious, failure.

What will happen next is a massive battle in Donbass which all the Russian forces are now focused on and some 60-80 thousand Ukrainian soldiers are highly likely to be completely eliminated, or surrendered.

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Apr 3 2022 01:03pm
Apparently a bunch of Germans (~5,000 according to reports) rallied in support of Russia:

https://twitter.com/OB_Ages/status/1510613121727148036?cxt=HHwWiMC5ma6o4_YpAAAA

Glad to see that not every European is totally brainwashed.
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Apr 3 2022 01:04pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 3 2022 01:58pm)
I'm talking to somebody who doesn't know the first thing about military tactics, so I know this is a waste of time, but here goes.

Russia never intended for the force they sent near Kiev to actually take the city. First of all, their numbers weren't high enough and secondly, they were not equipped for it.

What these forces were intended for was to tie up all the Ukrainian troops stationed near Kiev and force them to stay there in defense of the city as they were anticipating an attack. The effect this had was to prevent these tied up Ukrainian soldiers from re-inforcing other fronts (specifically the Donbass.)

From that perspective, the operation was a success. While all those Ukrainian soldiers were pinned down in various hotspots, Russian forces took control of the city of Izyum and have successfully locked a cauldron with some 60-80 thousand Ukrainian soldiers near Donetsk that are now totally encircled and without resupply.

From a political perspective, the Kiev operation may have been intended to put pressure on Zelensky and pals. But since Ze is a puppet who takes orders from Biden, this did not work. From the political perspective, this could be considered a minor, but not serious, failure.

What will happen next is a massive battle in Donbass which all the Russian forces are now focused on and some 60-80 thousand Ukrainian soldiers are highly likely to be completely eliminated, or surrendered.


Funny how you're cheerleading for the destruction of 60-80,000 human beings to further a "humanitarian mission." You're nothing but a fucking liar, Ivan.
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