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Jul 12 2023 12:05pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 12 2023 10:59am)
To my mind he doesn't know what he is talking about and doesn't understand the words he is using in his attempt, I know what he is trying to say, it is just extremely stupid so thank you for the translation but it isn't necessary.


Unlike some here, I have an excellent grasp of the lexicon. Your opinion of what's stupid is worth diddly.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 12 2023 10:59am)
Germany declared war on the US because the US supplied and helped the UK.

To think that we aren’t at risk of being pushed into full scale war with potential nukes being used just because we don’t have boots on the ground is dumb as we are sending hundreds of billions in hardware, providing intelligence, fuel, etc. Of course it’s a risk and why most of us are against this war.


The US was shooting at German submarines 3 months prior to declaration of war. (Germans were shooting too.)

A risk so small as to be negligible. But y'all are out here crying about the end of the world.
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Jul 12 2023 12:08pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 12 2023 10:48am)
Sweden/Finland were basically nato already just not officially. I don’t think you know much about this conflict if you automatically assume Ukraine will get into NATO. I think I’d take the other side of that bet knowing all I know.


I think it's more likely than not, although, it'll depend on how the conflict ends.
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Jul 12 2023 12:17pm
Quote (Djunior @ 12 Jul 2023 19:13)
Correction --> Zelensky failed
About NATO's decision to NOT present a timeline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJkLY7Llfy8


Ukraine will join NATO in the future, already receiving increasing weapons, intel, and economic assistance. Technically in war so can't join immediately, it can appears to be a bit absurd for sure.
This is Zelensky job to ask the maximum. Nothing special to say. Coping over 1 photo is dramatic ruscist self- own because the ones who are really isolated are Putin & co...

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jul 12 2023 12:18pm
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Jul 12 2023 12:38pm
So it seems like NATO has no balls to invite Ukraine partially like they did it to Germany.
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Jul 12 2023 12:42pm
Quote (Santara @ Jul 12 2023 03:05pm)
Unlike some here, I have an excellent grasp of the lexicon. Your opinion of what's stupid is worth diddly.


LMFAO

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Jul 12 2023 12:43pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Jul 12 2023 02:08pm)
I think it's more likely than not, although, it'll depend on how the conflict ends.


More likely based on what exactly?

Russia literally started the biggest war in Europe since ww2 mobilizing hundreds of thousands because of the threat of Ukraine joining. There’s a huge logical gap in understanding how they view that prospect and expectation that they’ll sit on their hands in the near future to allow Ukraine to join.
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Jul 12 2023 01:15pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 12 2023 11:43am)
More likely based on what exactly?

Russia literally started the biggest war in Europe since ww2 mobilizing hundreds of thousands because of the threat of Ukraine joining. There’s a huge logical gap in understanding how they view that prospect and expectation that they’ll sit on their hands in the near future to allow Ukraine to join.


It seems that the conflict is the major barrier to considering Ukraine's introduction to NATO. I don't think anyone, including myself, is making any assumptions about Russia being idle to that prospect. It's a long, arduous, and bloody road ahead.

Also, you're frequently condescending, which I find odd.
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Jul 12 2023 01:15pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 12 2023 08:17pm)
Ukraine will join NATO in the future, already receiving increasing weapons, intel, and economic assistance. Technically in war so can't join immediately, it can appears to be a bit absurd for sure.
This is Zelensky job to ask the maximum. Nothing special to say. Coping over 1 photo is dramatic ruscist self- own because the ones who are really isolated are Putin & co...


Obviously Russia understands that Ukraine will join NATO after the war is over.

I'll leave it to you to work it out. Not that I trust that you can but anyways have a go at it ^^
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Jul 12 2023 01:26pm
Quote (Djunior @ 12 Jul 2023 21:15)
Obviously Russia understands that Ukraine will join NATO after the war is over.
I'll leave it to you to work it out. Not that I trust that you can but anyways have a go at it ^^


When you say "Russia" you are talking about Moscovy, right ?
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Jul 12 2023 01:29pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 12 2023 01:42pm)
LMFAO


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