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Jul 11 2023 02:58pm
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 11 2023 04:56pm)
The following is a list I pulled from the internet of "third world countries":

China
Ukraine
Pakistan

I invite any global power to blow up these countries and let us know how they get on.


This list is wrong. Ukraine would be labeled a second world country. The distinction between 1st, 2nd and 3rd has to do with

1st world=the west
2nd world=communist soviet countries
3rd= distinction for the non aligned

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Jul 11 2023 03:10pm
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 11 2023 05:56pm)
The following is a list I pulled from the internet of "third world countries":

China
Ukraine
Pakistan

I invite any global power to blow up these countries and let us know how they get on.


Pakistan has nukes and China/Ukraine are actually 2nd world countries if you want to get picky about labels, one of which is currently being bombed...

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Jul 11 2023 03:11pm
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Zelenskiy fails in effort to secure invitation to join Nato at Vilnius summit
Leaders of military alliance sign off on declaration that does not give Ukraine firm membership timetable

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/11/zelenskiy-accuses-nato-of-lack-of-respect-over-ukraine-membership
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Jul 11 2023 03:22pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 11 2023 09:58pm)
This list is wrong. Ukraine would be labeled a second world country. The distinction between 1st, 2nd and 3rd has to do with

1st world=the west
2nd world=communist soviet countries
3rd= distinction for the non aligned


My point is I dont like the expression "third world country" as it is highly subjective and is an expression of the last century. it is no longer relevant. I did a google and i got 15 countries, including those 3, to prove my point.

Hey, i could have put India in there as well...



for the same reason i think expressions such as "orc's" or "LGBT+A++" etc are too simplistic. better to simple call them countries, nations, or people. I accept that closet racists (and open racists) prefer such terms as Orc's, but that does not mean that they are right. Look at how the US is culturally tearing itself apart. move away from all that ideological LGBT crap (all it is doing is eating up the country) and just call people, people.

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Jul 11 2023 03:47pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 11 2023 03:50pm)
Succeed at blowing up third world shitholes with no modern militaries lol, truly the masters of war.

Funny hearing the stories about burgerstanis running away from Ukraine because the concept of the enemy shooting back scared them so badly.


You do realize we're not set up to wage counterinsurgencies, but fight great powers toe to toe?

Go choke on poutine.

Quote (Djunior @ Jul 11 2023 03:55pm)
You know what I meant...

One year ago Russia was called a gas station, they were running out of missiles, the sanctions were going to cripple them in a couple months because they were cut from SWIFT, and so on

A huge miscalculation


Russia is still a gas station. They can make all this ammo, and then they have a terrible time getting it to the front. Because trucks are so hard?
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Jul 11 2023 03:51pm
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 11 2023 06:22pm)
My point is I dont like the expression "third world country" as it is highly subjective and is an expression of the last century. it is no longer relevant. I did a google and i got 15 countries, including those 3, to prove my point.

Hey, i could have put India in there as well...

https://i.imgur.com/SS6xre1.png

for the same reason i think expressions such as "orc's" or "LGBT+A++" etc are too simplistic. better to simple call them countries, nations, or people. I accept that closet racists (and open racists) prefer such terms as Orc's, but that does not mean that they are right. Look at how the US is culturally tearing itself apart. move away from all that ideological LGBT crap (all it is doing is eating up the country) and just call people, people.


I will try not to use it in the future but I think getting bent out of shape over a term everyone understands is a little strange, especially considering I also labeled them shitholes in the same comment lol, if anything I'd say that was the label worth being chastised over :P
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Jul 11 2023 04:04pm
Quote (Santara @ Jul 11 2023 06:47pm)
You do realize we're not set up to wage counterinsurgencies, but fight great powers toe to toe?

Go choke on poutine.


You do realize you've been occupying poor countries with little to no military all around the world?

Maybe stop doing that?

Go find a great power to fight and see how that goes for you, most likely you get some poor country like Ukraine to do it for you because Americans are too cowardly to take any actual risk.
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Jul 11 2023 04:19pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 11 2023 10:51pm)
I will try not to use it in the future but I think getting bent out of shape over a term everyone understands is a little strange, especially considering I also labeled them shitholes in the same comment lol, if anything I'd say that was the label worth being chastised over :P


well, certain countries are shitholes. but "the third world" does not have a monopoly on shitholes, and "the third world" no longer exists.

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Jul 11 2023 04:34pm
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 11 2023 07:19pm)
well, certain countries are shitholes. but "the third world" does not have a monopoly on shitholes, and "the third world" no longer exists.


Who said they have a monopoly on shitholes?

The term really isn't that deep, the proper definition is still quite relevant today and literally everyone on the planet knows what you mean when you use it colloquially, as I did.

Like I said I will try not to use it, but I wasn't really wrong to use it and I certainly am not going to apologize or feel bad for using it because of some weird hangup you have about it.
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Jul 11 2023 04:44pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 11 2023 05:04pm)
You do realize you've been occupying poor countries with little to no military all around the world?

Maybe stop doing that?

Go find a great power to fight and see how that goes for you, most likely you get some poor country like Ukraine to do it for you because Americans are too cowardly to take any actual risk.


@ bold: I'm all for it! You just wouldn't know it because you're incapable of differentiating supporting a people who were unjustly attacked with the US penchant for adventurism.
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