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Jul 11 2023 09:06am
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"France will transfer long-range missiles to Ukraine to support the counteroffensive," French President Macron just confirmed in Vilnius.
France owns the SCALP-EG, an equivalent of the Storm Shadow with a range of up to 300km.
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No NATO for Ukraine
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Jul 11 2023 09:33am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 11 2023 02:08pm)
So thoughts and prayers.


Thoughts and prayers my ass, the only thing NATO is interested in is reeling in Ukraine no matter the cost.

They accepted the risks in 2014 or are you saying they were so braindead that they thought Russia wouldn't mind if NATO would take Ukraine including Crimea and their naval base...


Just check the list of stuff (weapons and money) that was sent to Ukraine so far, that gives you an indication of how far the West / NATO are prepared to go.

You know that Biden just signed a waiver so he can sent controversial cluster munitions to Ukraine or didn't you notice ^^


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Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 11 2023 05:06pm)
hi
"France will transfer long-range missiles to Ukraine to support the counteroffensive," French President Macron just confirmed in Vilnius.
France owns the SCALP-EG, an equivalent of the Storm Shadow with a range of up to 300km.
have a nice day


So another Western weapon system is going to fall in Russian hands, big win sauceman SMH
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Jul 11 2023 09:37am
Quote (Djunior @ Jul 11 2023 10:33am)
Thoughts and prayers my ass, the only thing NATO is interested in is reeling in Ukraine no matter the cost.

They accepted the risks in 2014 or are you saying they were so braindead that they thought Russia wouldn't mind if NATO would take Ukraine including Crimea and their naval base...


Just check the list of stuff (weapons and money) that was sent to Ukraine so far, that gives you an indication of how far the West / NATO are prepared to go.

You know that Biden just signed a waiver so he can sent controversial cluster munitions to Ukraine or didn't you notice ^^


dont shift the goalposts. the statement at issue is "the west sent support for the euromaiden coup". i'm not even saying it's outright false, just that the coup wasn't carried out with american ar15s, it was carried out by people mostly without guns and homemade body armor. we have sent FAR too much to ukraine for the war, but to my knowledge we didnt sent them anything but thoughts and prayers for the coup which ousted Russia's puppet.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 11 2023 12:37pm)
dont shift the goalposts. the statement at issue is "the west sent support for the euromaiden coup". i'm not even saying it's outright false, just that the coup wasn't carried out with american ar15s, it was carried out by people mostly without guns and homemade body armor. we have sent FAR too much to ukraine for the war, but to my knowledge we didnt sent them anything but thoughts and prayers for the coup which ousted Russia's puppet.


Don't need guns, just enough bodies to throw at the government that they are forced to choose between decimating their own population or relinquishing power

US funded propaganda supplied those.
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Jul 11 2023 09:44am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 11 2023 10:41am)
Don't need guns, just enough bodies to throw at the government that they are forced to choose between decimating their own population or relinquishing power

US funded propaganda supplied those.


I dont disagree at all. the west has been trying to pull in Ukraine for a long time, as is evident by the rise of western friendly and anti-russian candidates for as long as Ukraine has had a president. we sent a lot of thoughts and prayers and the angry mob marched down the president building by building taking sniper fire until he said no mas.
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Jul 11 2023 09:53am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 11 2023 05:37pm)
dont shift the goalposts. the statement at issue is "the west sent support for the euromaiden coup". i'm not even saying it's outright false, just that the coup wasn't carried out with american ar15s, it was carried out by people mostly without guns and homemade body armor. we have sent FAR too much to ukraine for the war, but to my knowledge we didnt sent them anything but thoughts and prayers for the coup which ousted Russia's puppet.


I'm not shifting the goalposts (you know there's an extra open line in my post that I used to separate the second part of my post)

They clearly accepted the risks in 2014, McCain was there, Verhofstadt was there, EU - Ukraine Association Agreement was on the table, NATO membership set in motion in 2008...

You don't believe your own "Thoughts and prayers" argument, no way lol

This post was edited by Djunior on Jul 11 2023 09:58am
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