This is now the answer you will get everytime you try to argue about 2008 & 2014:
I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you:
Let's debunk the pro-russian 1/ "Nato 2008" or 2/ "Coup 2014" propaganda:
First, let's make it clear that FSB has spent decades spying on Ukraine, attempting to co-opt its institutions, paying off officials and working to impede any perceived drift toward the West. No aspect of the FSB’s intelligence mission outside Russia was more important than burrowing into all levels of Ukrainian society.
1/ "Nato 2008"
At a joint press conference in January 2003, Putin responded to a question about Ukraine. “Ukraine is an independent sovereign state, and it will choose its own path to peace and security”
Source:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/19/putin-russia-ukraine-nato-george-robertson/4 years before 2008 Russia tried to assassinate the elected Ukrainian president because he was too much "independent" ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko#TCDD_poisoningIn 2008 "NATO "welcomes Georgia's and Ukraine's aspirations for membership"
=> Wow this is a declaration of war, time to deport children, execute, rape, and loot...
Russia bravely protecting itself from the terrible Nato agression:
Russian missile hits Zaporizhzhia apartments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yC7UWBIAJQ
2/ "Coup 2014"
Answer: Totally incorrect; It was a constitutional vote.
Ukraine’s parliament voted 328–0 (about 73% of its 447 members) to remove President Viktor Yanukovich, who abandoned his Kiev office.
The "president" had to flee to his mother Russia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Fleeing_to_RussiaOn a side note:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TitushkyTitushky were employed by the Yanukovych government with a reported daily pay of 200 hryvnia. Some of them were also suspected to be illegal formations of combat troops carrying concealed pistols. Their aim was to intimidate and disperse demonstrations by opponents of the government, and attack participants and representatives of the media. The term is sometimes translated as "Rent a Thug."
I posted literally videos of speeches on Maidan square (McCain and Verhofstadt) and official 2008 NATO summit sources. This shit