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Jul 10 2023 09:09am
Quote (Djunior @ 10 Jul 2023 17:00)
First you mention 2014 followed by Putin's 2003 statement

Of course the 2003 statement happened first followed by NATO / the West fucking up in 2008 and 2014

Look totally not a coup :rofl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eyhO8VTdg

https://i.imgur.com/gf6IQey.jpg



Ukraine’s parliament voted to remove President Viktor Yanukovich, who abandoned his Kiev office => Guess what ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Fleeing_to_Russia

Seems Ruscists got owned.

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Jul 10 2023 09:15am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jul 10 2023 05:09pm)
Ukraine’s parliament voted to remove PresidentViktor Yanukovich, who abandoned his Kiev office => Guess what ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Fleeing_to_Russia

Seems Ruscists got owned.


The president didn't sign the EU - Ukraine Association Agreement

The president was then overthrown in a violent coup where the protesters were backed by the West

It's all well documented and factual correct.

That YOU think it's fine because you hate Russia doesn't change the facts and thanks to people like YOU there's now a war raging.

Well done!
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Jul 10 2023 09:26am
Quote (Djunior @ 10 Jul 2023 17:15)
The president didn't sign the EU - Ukraine Association Agreement
The president was then overthrown in a violent coup where the protesters were backed by the West
It's all well documented and factual correct.
That YOU think it's fine because you hate Russia doesn't change the facts and thanks to people like YOU there's now a war raging.
Well done!


All what you say is complete bullshit. What is your secret to be so hateful ? Oh I dont want to hear this saaaad story.

So: Did you know Russia paid people to act badly during various protests in Ukraine ? Mostly mobs, these paid "fake protesters" even have a specific name, would have to find it back, it's in the wiki.

The little dog flee to his mother Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Fleeing_to_Russia

/e

from wp: the FSB has spent decades spying on Ukraine, attempting to co-opt its institutions, paying off officials and working to impede any perceived drift toward the West. No aspect of the FSB’s intelligence mission outside Russia was more important than burrowing into all levels of Ukrainian society.

This summarize well the mental unbalance...

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jul 10 2023 09:29am
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Quote (Meanwhile @ 10 Jul 2023 18:26)
All what you say is complete bullshit. What is you secret to be so hateful ? Oh I dont want to hear this saaaad story.

So: Did you know Russia paid people to act badly during various protests in Ukraine ? Mostly mobs, these paid "fake protesters" even have a specific name, would have to find it back, it's in the wiki.

The little dog flee to his mother Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Fleeing_to_Russia


Titushky
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titushky
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Jul 10 2023 09:34am
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Yes ! Thank youfor the gesture of good will
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Jul 10 2023 11:52am
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All what you say is complete bullshit. What is your secret to be so hateful ? Oh I dont want to hear this saaaad story.

So: Did you know Russia paid people to act badly during various protests in Ukraine ? Mostly mobs, these paid "fake protesters" even have a specific name, would have to find it back, it's in the wiki.

The little dog flee to his mother Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Fleeing_to_Russia

/e

from wp: the FSB has spent decades spying on Ukraine, attempting to co-opt its institutions, paying off officials and working to impede any perceived drift toward the West. No aspect of the FSB’s intelligence mission outside Russia was more important than burrowing into all levels of Ukrainian society.

This summarize well the mental unbalance...


Dishonest trash

This is what the BBC had to say about it, Feb 2015, you should check it out (good video included)

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-31435719

E: and here's your boy Verhofstadt like a good doggy



This post was edited by Djunior on Jul 10 2023 11:53am
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Quote (Djunior @ 10 Jul 2023 19:52)
Dishonest trash
This is what the BBC had to say about it, Feb 2015, you should check it out (good video included)
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-31435719
E: and here's your boy Verhofstadt like a good doggy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQnXo2HMriQ


Look, your bullshit about 2014 has been completely dismantled, i will finish it with this video

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titushky

Titushky were employed by the Yanukovych government with a reported daily pay of 200 hryvnia. Some of them were also suspected to be illegal formations of combat troops carrying concealed pistols. Their aim was to intimidate and disperse demonstrations by opponents of the government, and attack participants and representatives of the media. The term is sometimes translated as "Rent a Thug."



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Look, your bullshit about 2014 has been completely dismantled, i will finish it with this video

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titushky

Titushky were employed by the Yanukovych government with a reported daily pay of 200 hryvnia. Some of them were also suspected to be illegal formations of combat troops carrying concealed pistols. Their aim was to intimidate and disperse demonstrations by opponents of the government, and attack participants and representatives of the media. The term is sometimes translated as "Rent a Thug."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzc_L9BBCJ0


You didn't "dismantle" anything

I present fact that cannot be denied, official NATO source material

NATO's agenda is reeling in Ukraine, EU agenda is reeling in Ukraine it's all clear as day

YOU are the one posting bullshit and shit like "Ruscism" or whatever shit that no one cares about because it's full on Bullshit

Pathetic
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Jul 10 2023 01:49pm
Fine article to read (for those who actually read)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthenians
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Quote (Djunior @ 10 Jul 2023 21:11)
You didn't "dismantle" anything

I present fact that cannot be denied, official NATO source material

NATO's agenda is reeling in Ukraine, EU agenda is reeling in Ukraine it's all clear as day

YOU are the one posting bullshit and shit like "Ruscism" or whatever shit that no one cares about because it's full on Bullshit

Pathetic



This is now the answer you will get everytime you try to argue about 2008 & 2014:





I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you:

Let's debunk the pro-russian 1/ "Nato 2008" or 2/ "Coup 2014" propaganda:

First, let's make it clear that FSB has spent decades spying on Ukraine, attempting to co-opt its institutions, paying off officials and working to impede any perceived drift toward the West. No aspect of the FSB’s intelligence mission outside Russia was more important than burrowing into all levels of Ukrainian society.

1/ "Nato 2008"

Quote (Djunior @ 10 Jul 2023 17:00)
the West fucking up in 2008


At a joint press conference in January 2003, Putin responded to a question about Ukraine. “Ukraine is an independent sovereign state, and it will choose its own path to peace and security”
Source: https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/19/putin-russia-ukraine-nato-george-robertson/

4 years before 2008 Russia tried to assassinate the elected Ukrainian president because he was too much "independent" ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko#TCDD_poisoning

In 2008 "NATO "welcomes Georgia's and Ukraine's aspirations for membership"
=> Wow this is a declaration of war, time to deport children, execute, rape, and loot...

Russia bravely protecting itself from the terrible Nato agression:
Russian missile hits Zaporizhzhia apartments



2/ "Coup 2014"

Quote (Djunior @ 10 Jul 2023 17:15)
The president was then overthrown in a violent coup where the protesters were backed by the West


Answer: Totally incorrect; It was a constitutional vote.

Ukraine’s parliament voted 328–0 (about 73% of its 447 members) to remove President Viktor Yanukovich, who abandoned his Kiev office.
The "president" had to flee to his mother Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Fleeing_to_Russia

On a side note:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titushky
Titushky were employed by the Yanukovych government with a reported daily pay of 200 hryvnia. Some of them were also suspected to be illegal formations of combat troops carrying concealed pistols. Their aim was to intimidate and disperse demonstrations by opponents of the government, and attack participants and representatives of the media. The term is sometimes translated as "Rent a Thug."
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