Wikileaks isn't credible at all in my opinion, but the scoop should be viewed skeptically(like the Cohen McClatchy one) until other people confirm.



How does it feel to be so disconnected from reality?

Did you read the last tweets of your Prez ? This guy got a serious problem

Trump has a mental issue:

"
....terrible Gang of Angry Democrats. Look at their past, and look where they come from. The now $30,000,000 Witch Hunt continues and they’ve got nothing but ruined lives. Where is the Server? Let these terrible people go back to the Clinton Foundation and “Justice” Department!

....The Fake News Media builds Bob Mueller up as a Saint, when in actuality he is the exact opposite. He is doing TREMENDOUS damage to our Criminal Justice System, where he is only looking at one side and not the other. Heroes will come of this, and it won’t be Mueller and his...

The Phony Witch Hunt continues, but Mueller and his gang of Angry Dems are only looking at one side, not the other. Wait until it comes out how horribly & viciously they are treating people, ruining lives for them refusing to lie. Mueller is a conflicted prosecutor gone rogue....

"

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Days of our lives 2.0

Every week there’s some cliffhanger that you must tune in for! The boy cried wolf too many times so normal people don’t give two shits about whatever icemage obsesses over every day.

There's been plenty of Russiagate scoops and only a few mistakes/unproven claims. The Brian Ross one got corrected within an hour or two, and then CNN reported something that was factual, but wasn't actually a scoop. The past couple years there has been some great reporting, but of course people like yourself will only focus on the small number of mistakes.



That's a misuse of the idiom, and if normal means ignoring the news, I'm happy to be abnormal.

small number of mistakes? Part of me wants to go through and categorize a list of the number of fake news stories, and part of me doesn't care enough to put in the effort because its not like there's an easy resource to identify them all
but it was a pretty sizeable list.

confirmation bias at it's finest. even biased reporting make a small number of factual mistakes by comparison to factually correct reports. you'd have to exclude unsourced reports in varrying degrees based on how much they vetted them, of course. but overall the 24-7 news coverage leads to a shit ton of report, which invariably contain errors.

we could discuss errors as a result of unsound vetting. we could discuss the increase of factual errors over time as a result of instantaneous demand for facts. we could even discuss factual errors by network then compare ideological aims of each network to draw some conclusions.

but this discussion is akin to a worker saying "i don't make many mistakes" and the employer bringing out a list of mistakes over a 10 year period. the list may be substantial but it doesn't invalidate a fairly clean record overall.

if we were talking off the beaten path blog-esque gossip rags, sure, they make more mistakes than facts. or near enough it makes no matter. but 90% of what CNN does is report on tweets from world leaders and politicians and replay clips of downtrodden migrants.

In relation to the number of scoops, yes. If there's one hundred stories in a year, and three or four were mistakes, that's insignificant.

I feel confident that the number of sensational national news stories that turned out to be derps/fakes regarding Russiaburger has been far higher than the small number of factual mistakes made by normal responsible news organizations pushing hundreds of stories a year. Just offhand we had the Flynn-Russia scoop, Cohen in Prague, DTJr having early access to wikileaks emails, the Mooch's russia ties, Comey supposed to refute Trump, and the almost weekly drumbeat of "Mueller will indict people by this Tuesday" which never materialized. But when we look back historically even in times of media tumult we get isolated instances like the Killian Documents against Bush.
If you were a nuclear technician and you did hundreds of days of work in a year and only three or four times you manually extracted the control rods and left them lying on their sides overnight, that's significant.

How many times have we done this same routine? How many times in this very thread?

Fact 1 :

Guliani: "manafort said nothing damaging in mueller interviews"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-giuliani/trump-lawyer-manafort-said-nothing-damaging-in-mueller-interviews-idUSKCN1MW2U8

Fact 2 :

U.S. prosecutors accuse Manafort of lying to Mueller, blowing up plea deal

https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKCN1NW03K


==> Guliani knew manafort was lying ?

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Ecuadorian embassy has no evidence of Manafort being on the premises at the predicted dates. Its not looking too good