Quote (fender @ Jul 4 2023 02:12pm)
still waiting for your realistic peace deal proposal. where is the master diplomat now? still hiding? still dodging?
Tell me how you're going to drive away Russia from Ukraine without a Nato intervention? That's what you ask for, right?
See, I can play that game, too.
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 4 2023 02:11pm)
I accept that is hawk thinking but the counter argument here is that while Russia COULD invade and take over ALL of Ukraine, it has not. It has taken the region that had a large Russia minority, and which was bombed for 7 years, and it is holding crimea, which independent observers acknowledge as being predominantly pro-russian.
I would suggest that the US and Russia have spoken about this and the US is aware that Russia does not want all of Ukraine, noting if troops were on Polands border, Nato would be having fits.
If that worked, there wouldn't be a war in Ukraine.
This post was edited by babun1024 on Jul 4 2023 06:17am