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Jul 4 2023 05:09am
Quote (babun1024 @ 4 Jul 2023 13:04)
Do you want Russian troops out of Ukraine and peace in Ukraine? Then you plead for a NATO intervention. No other way, Russia is going to abandon Ukraine otherwise.


so you don't have a solution? you bitch about me not having one, and when i tell you mine, you dismiss it as "not feasible", but can't even come up with one of your own. now who's the real keyboard warrior here? pathetic...

your next reply better contain a proposal that it acceptable for everyone, or do you just want to give russia what they want, so they have no reason to stop their cycle of "instigate local conflict - intervene - annex - consolidate" until they conquered all of their weaker neighbours that aren't in NATO yet?
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Jul 4 2023 05:12am
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so you don't have a solution? you bitch about me not having one, and when i tell you mine, you dismiss it as "not feasible", but can't even come up with one of your own. now who's the real keyboard warrior here? pathetic...

your next reply better contain a proposal that it acceptable for everyone, or do you just want to give russia what they want, so they have no reason to stop their cycle of "instigate local conflict - intervene - annex - consolidate" until they conquered all of their weaker neighbours that aren't in NATO yet?


That's the solution. Your solution isn't feasible. Why let Russia take the Ukraine? Let's intervene. Your position is Nato intervention, stop dodging.

Is Russia going to retreat from Ukraine and take its troops on its own volition? No way!
Can Ukraine force them out? Very unlikely!

You want Nato intervention then. How else are you going to force them out?

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jul 4 2023 05:15am
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Jul 4 2023 05:13am
Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 4 2023 01:09pm)
Sanction were a way but they didn't work.


nope, they backfired badly and most of the world does give a damn about this conflict, but we still get this "russia vs the world" narrative

really brutal that there is no mcdonalds in moscow anymore, meanwhile countries like saudi arabia buy russian diesel for cheap and sell their own to europe for a premium :rofl:
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Jul 4 2023 05:16am
Quote (fender @ Jul 4 2023 08:09am)
so you don't have a solution? you bitch about me not having one, and when i tell you mine, you dismiss it as "not feasible", but can't even come up with one of your own. now who's the real keyboard warrior here? pathetic...

your next reply better contain a proposal that it acceptable for everyone, or do you just want to give russia what they want, so they have no reason to stop their cycle of "instigate local conflict - intervene - annex - consolidate" until they conquered all of their weaker neighbours that aren't in NATO yet?


I'm more scared of Germany than Russia because Germany keeps producing people like you.
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Jul 4 2023 05:22am
If you are waiting for a year and half to intervene then "little brother" have been adopted for the sake of child benefit. And you are like: Hey! It’s a pity that the maniac didn’t kill him right away, now the neighbors are looking askance at us. Let's lynch his entire family.

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Jul 4 2023 05:22am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 4 Jul 2023 13:07)
understand that the person you are talking to refuses compromises, its his unrealistic, delusional demands or REEEEEE

ukraine is losing on the battlefield and they aint getting crimea or the currently occupied eastern portion back


oh look, ampootin wants to reward the warmongers with exactly what they came for and dismisses everything else as delusional... what a shock coming from the bot who agreed with literally every single narrative the kremlin came up with in the last two years, lol...

we all remember when 80 years ago the very smart and peace-loving adults in the room went "oh we just want the fighting to stop, end this senseless war", and the western allies told nazi germany to just keep the occupied territories, keep poland, belgium, the netherlands, france, denmark, norway, the baltics, the eastern balkans, and greece, because we all just have to compromise and not be unrealistic... and everyone just went home because it was the mature thing to do...

yes, what could possibly go wrong letting warmongering dictators get away with invading and annexing territory they feel entitled to for some warped reason, and dismissing any opposition to their conquests as the actual problem...
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Jul 4 2023 05:22am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jul 4 2023 01:16pm)
I'm more scared of Germany than Russia because Germany keeps producing people like you.


thats why despite my complaints it is probably a good thing germany is swept away by mass migration and dying out

unfortunately a large part never learns their lesson with their uncurable fanaticism to "save the world"
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Jul 4 2023 05:29am
Quote (babun1024 @ 4 Jul 2023 13:12)
That's the solution. Your solution isn't feasible. Why let Russia take the Ukraine? Let's intervene. Your position is Nato intervention, stop dodging.

Is Russia going to retreat from Ukraine and take its troops on its own volition? No way!
Can Ukraine force them out? Very unlikely!

You want Nato intervention then. How else are you going to force them out?


you still didn't tell us what YOUR solution is. you dismissed mine as unrealistic. fair enough, that mad dictator in the kremlin obviously won't withdraw, he wants to conquer, i'm well aware of that. i'm predominantly mocking the kremlin bots who pretend it's the west that doesn't want the war to end, when in reality the ball is firmly in pootin's court, when he is the one who determines when the war stops.

but you never told us YOUR great compromise. please show me what a fair and more importantly, a feasible end to this conflict looks like, something that ALL sides can agree to. you keep dodging that simple request, after trying to portray yourself as that expert diplomat and negotiator. was it all just hot air?
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Jul 4 2023 05:32am
Quote (fender @ Jul 4 2023 01:22pm)
oh look, ampootin wants to reward the warmongers with exactly what they came for and dismisses everything else as delusional... what a shock coming from the bot who agreed with literally every single narrative the kremlin came up with in the last two years, lol...

we all remember when 80 years ago the very smart and peace-loving adults in the room went "oh we just want the fighting to stop, end this senseless war", and the western allies told nazi germany to just keep the occupied territories, keep poland, belgium, the netherlands, france, denmark, norway, the baltics, the eastern balkans, and greece, because we all just have to compromise and not be unrealistic... and everyone just went home because it was the mature thing to do...

yes, what could possibly go wrong letting warmongering dictators get away with invading and annexing territory they feel entitled to for some warped reason, and dismissing any opposition to their conquests as the actual problem...


your analogy attempts become more absurd every time, you are losing the plot

sorry that reality is so disappointing for the slava ukraini nazi supporters

but its okay, there will be some other thing for you to get obsessed about and you will act like the current thing never happened

my stance remains, i will call out warmongering by all sides and attempts to rewrite history to wipe out certain responsibilities dont work on me

ukranian nazis and the west deliberately violating russias safety concerns are just as much to blame as putin and the kremlins geopolitics doctrine from the cold war era, thats a fact
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Jul 4 2023 05:32am
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you still didn't tell us what YOUR solution is. you dismissed mine as unrealistic. fair enough, that mad dictator in the kremlin obviously won't withdraw, he wants to conquer, i'm well aware of that. i'm predominantly mocking the kremlin bots who pretend it's the west that doesn't want the war to end, when in reality the ball is firmly in pootin's court, when he is the one who determines when the war stops.

but you never told us YOUR great compromise. please show me what a fair and more importantly, a feasible end to this conflict looks like, something that ALL sides can agree to. you keep dodging that simple request, after trying to portray yourself as that expert diplomat and negotiator. was it all just hot air?

Either Nato intervention or negotiate a peace agreement. Everything else didn't work.


There is also the option to continue the "fight" until the last Ukrainian. I don't like that option. You seem to be very adamant of it.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jul 4 2023 05:34am
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