Quote (IceMage @ Jul 4 2023 03:18am)
I'm going to resist getting too salty, but haven't you been to Ukraine? You or your wife might have family there? And you want to subject them to the Russian army? The dudes who castrate Ukrainian men, who rape, torture, and murder the women? You would like those men to have Carte Blanche over Ukraine? This isn't Western propaganda, it's what they do. They are not a disciplined military. They are men ready to do evil.
Pretending that opposing military aid to Ukraine is actually helping the people of Ukraine is bullshit, plain and simple. You're some dude in New York pretending that you know how a normal Ukrainian feels. If Ukrainians want to fight, Americans should give them the tools to do so. If they want to negotiate, we should help them there. What we should not do is pressure them to capitulate to the raping, torturing, murdering Russian army/government. That's what you're trying to do.
your stories come from the same people, who told us how iraqi soldiers are killing babies in kuwait, how saddam was hiding WMD's or the rebels (turned out to be ISIS) in syria are the good guys
i am not saying everything is a lie, but i would be a bit more careful
Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 4 2023 10:50am)
Ukraine disconnected the 750 kV power transmission line supplying electricity to the Zaporizhzhya NPP
This was stated by Renat Karchaa, advisor to the general director of the Rosenergoatom Concern.
Do they really want another Tchernobyl on their territory?
Easy to get on the moral high ground, to dismiss all other opinions as kremlin bots to shut people up then not offer any solutions of their own.
What's your solution? Send more weapons and more Ukrainians to the front? :lol:
Any death toll is justifyed because they're going to get 60 virgins in the afterlife for fighting a just war? (pun intended)
When my 9y old brother (Ukraine) is being attacked by 15y old teenager (Russia) I either step in to fight myself (Nato) or negotiate to make them stop or tell him to run away. In no way, I'd be cheering him on while he is beaten to a pulp on the ground because "he is right" and the 15y old started the fight in the first place.
You don't even have the moral high ground anymore.
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/status/1676148258631041024These are the people who are sent to the front forcibly.
fender wont give you anything except another emotional buzzword rant
so it begins, the nazis really want to fuck around with the ZNPP to draw the west in
they already attempted to cause a NATO intervention by saying that the missile hitting poland was from russia, when in reality it was a ukranian one (self destruction mechanism failed)
thankfully the US pumped the breaks immediately (while german media for example went batshit insane)