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Jun 26 2023 12:12pm


Inb4 it's pro-Chinese source I prefer my MSM sources they don't show that stuff REEEEE



Edit: and btw, enjoy ^_^

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Jun 26 2023 12:14pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 26 Jun 2023 19:59)
there is only one person here writing angry paragraphs and its not me

once again, there were both german and british mainstream experts/media people suggesting the exact same thing

your accusations are just hilarious at this point, i make a point that is literally the opposite of what putin said in public and you are like KREMLIN NARRATIVE REEEEE :rofl:

you never fail to make people laugh, how about you try being a comedian?


cope more, kremlin bot.

and no, the angle that it was just a "front for troop movement", completely disregarding the panic, the destroyed infrastructure, the massive hit to pootin's authority, the domestic attention this created... is exclusively a propaganda spin, it is NOT a narrative supported by western analysts, you desperate liar.
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Jun 26 2023 12:18pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jun 26 2023 08:10pm)
Wut :wacko:

The issue that we're discussing is that NATO has expanded the last couple decades and NATO is trying to reel in Ukraine and Ukraine is therefor the place of conflict...

Dishonest NATO shill...


i love how the fact that a western sponsored, violent coup led to the entire process is always missing in these posts

"but.....but ukraine approached NATO".....after a puppet government got into office as the victoria nuland leaks have confirmed and that government then started to murder eastern ukrainians, who were not okay with this

large parts of ukraine drifting towards the west is proven by polls and election results, but there was no organic process here

thats the entire point
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Jun 26 2023 12:20pm
Quote (Djunior @ 26 Jun 2023 20:10)
Wut :wacko:

The issue that we're discussing is that NATO has expanded the last couple decades and NATO is trying to reel in Ukraine and Ukraine is therefor the place of conflict...

Dishonest NATO shill...


wrong. the issue we were discussing is "who is responsible for this war". i guess you lost track of that with all your silly whataboutisms and deflection attempts...

i say the main culprit is the nation that militarily invades its neighbour. you say it's the military alliance said neighbour approached in order to be protected from such an invasion.
i say it was ukraine's choice to make, and their decision should be respected. you say it's russia's call to make, and if ukraine chooses not to be a russian puppet, russia has every right to murder their citizens.

i'm an advocate for people's choice. you're a war apologist.
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Jun 26 2023 12:23pm
Quote (fender @ Jun 26 2023 08:14pm)
cope more, kremlin bot.

and no, the angle that it was just a "front for troop movement", completely disregarding the panic, the destroyed infrastructure, the massive hit to pootin's authority, the domestic attention this created... is exclusively a propaganda spin, it is NOT a narrative supported by western analysts, you desperate liar.


at this point there are only 3 options for you here

1. people sounding like a broken record do exist
2. you are a troll
3. you are AI

3 is unlikely, because even AI sounds like it has more original thoughts than you

not sure whether its 1 or 2

lesson of the day: even if you say the opposite of what the kremlin says, ITS STILL POOTIN PROPAGANDA
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Jun 26 2023 12:26pm
Quote (fender @ Jun 26 2023 08:20pm)
wrong. the issue we were discussing is "who is responsible for this war". i guess you lost track of that with all your silly whataboutisms and deflection attempts...

i say the main culprit is the nation that militarily invades its neighbour. you say it's the military alliance said neighbour approached in order to be protected from such an invasion.
i say it was ukraine's choice to make, and their decision should be respected. you say it's russia's call to make, and if ukraine chooses not to be a russian puppet, russia has every right to murder their citizens.

i'm an advocate for people's choice. you're a war apologist.


So you're just a huge hypocrite and I wish you good luck telling the Russians that they're bad and that the West / NATO can do whatever they please because they're good (a huge list of regime changes and wars doesn't count cuz "Whataboutism" :lol: )

gl fenderp
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Jun 26 2023 12:28pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 26 Jun 2023 20:18)
i love how the fact that a western sponsored, violent coup led to the entire process is always missing in these posts

"but.....but ukraine approached NATO".....after a puppet government got into office as the victoria nuland leaks have confirmed and that government then started to murder eastern ukrainians, who were not okay with this

large parts of ukraine drifting towards the west is proven by polls and election results, but there was no organic process here

thats the entire point


unsurprisingly, you're "missing" the majority of ukraine's modern history there. specifically the decades of russian meddling resulting in kremlin puppets leading ukraine. you're missing one of those kremlin puppets turning dictator in order to unilaterally withdraw from already agreed upon deals with the west. you're missing the fact that ukraine's revolution had overwhelming grassroots support. and most importantly, you're missing the fact that ukraine has been showing us for over a year now WHO they want to be allied with and who they reject, even if it cost them their lives.

if your little kremlin inspired revisionist history lesson were true, russian troops would have been welcomed as liberators. you just can't stop regurgitating easily debunked russian propaganda, huh?
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Jun 26 2023 12:32pm
Quote (fender @ Jun 26 2023 08:28pm)
unsurprisingly, you're "missing" the majority of ukraine's modern history there. specifically the decades of russian meddling resulting in kremlin puppets leading ukraine. you're missing one of those kremlin puppets turning dictator in order to unilaterally withdraw from already agreed upon deals with the west. you're missing the fact that ukraine's revolution had overwhelming grassroots support. and most importantly, you're missing the fact that ukraine has been showing us for over a year now WHO they want to be allied with and who they reject, even if it cost them their lives.

if your little kremlin inspired revisionist history lesson were true, russian troops would have been welcomed as liberators. you just can't stop regurgitating easily debunked russian propaganda, huh?


they had such a great support that they had murder civilians in the east, burn people alive in odessa and putins boys taking crimea received a hero's welcome

keep taking commands from your tv buddy

This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Jun 26 2023 12:32pm
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Jun 26 2023 12:35pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 26 Jun 2023 20:23)
at this point there are only 3 options for you here

1. people sounding like a broken record do exist
2. you are a troll
3. you are AI

3 is unlikely, because even AI sounds like it has more original thoughts than you

not sure whether its 1 or 2

lesson of the day: even if you say the opposite of what the kremlin says, ITS STILL POOTIN PROPAGANDA


if you weren't a kremlin bot, you'd try to prove me wrong and provide some of those alleged western analysts buying into the "just a front for troop movement" narrative which completely disregards the massive downsides this had for pootin.

but you can't, you're just a liar, so you resort to pointless personal attacks that have nothing to do with the issue at hand. cope more, war apologist.

Quote (Djunior @ 26 Jun 2023 20:26)
So you're just a huge hypocrite and I wish you good luck telling the Russians that they're bad and that the West / NATO can do whatever they please because they're good (a huge list of regime changes and wars doesn't count cuz "Whataboutism" :lol: )

gl fenderp


yes, yes... we already established that you can't read. doesn't change what i ACTUALLY said:

i say the main culprit is the nation that militarily invades its neighbour. you say it's the military alliance said neighbour approached in order to be protected from such an invasion.
i say it was ukraine's choice to make, and their decision should be respected. you say it's russia's call to make, and if ukraine chooses not to be a russian puppet, russia has every right to murder their citizens.

i'm an advocate for people's choice. you're a war apologist.
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Jun 26 2023 12:37pm
Quote (fender @ Jun 26 2023 08:35pm)

yes, yes... we already established that you can't read. doesn't change what i ACTUALLY said:

i say the main culprit is the nation that militarily invades its neighbour. you say it's the military alliance said neighbour approached in order to be protected from such an invasion.
i say it was ukraine's choice to make, and their decision should be respected. you say it's russia's call to make, and if ukraine chooses not to be a russian puppet, russia has every right to murder their citizens.

i'm an advocate for people's choice. you're a war apologist.


Go to Russia and tell them. Don't forget to keep us updated and make some selfies :)

gl pal
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