Fight for yourself and for your family. Germany is just a name. Centuries ago it was one name, centuries later it will be another. Only war never changes. If someone starts "singing" about the nation and self-sacrifice, then he wants to deceive you in his own selfish interests.

That's implied with the word "Heimat".

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jun 26 2023 11:46am

False equivalence.



Whataboutism, time travel.




Reading militaries experts opinions about the battle it seems one of the biggest constraint is to avoid the mobile russian "reserve" which moves from a point to another to counter-attack behind the lines.
This could means next step for Ukrainians is to create several breaches and then proceed big offensive from one of them.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jun 26 2023 11:53am

You understand what it all boils down to fenderp, stop playing the forum idiot. What I said is all very relevant and posting shit excuses like crying "whataboutism" or "those countries wanted it" go strait to the trash bin.

If the US / the West plays it like that and insist on having a sphere of influence right up to Russian border and keep expanding that sphere of influence at the cost of Russia (main adversary for the past 8 decades or so) then how are you going to tell Russia that they're not allowed to have a sphere of influence on their frikkin border or not react to the next NATO expansion that aims to reel in Ukraine with all issues involved (ethnic Russian minority / Crimea, Sevastopol)...

But you KNOW all of this, you're simply a dishonest NATO shill, keep licking that leather...

Agree . I will never fight for any country ...

so in the post in which you specifically mention me you were "nOt tALkiNg tO" me, just about me, and now you are mad because i addressed you directly, not just talk shit about you behind your back like a little bitch, and called you out for once again fully buying into kremlin spins? alright then, keep clutching your pearls, ampootin...

"a front for troop movement".... bwahahahaaaaaha... war apologists on copium are hilarious...

there is only one person here writing angry paragraphs and its not me

once again, there were both german and british mainstream experts/media people suggesting the exact same thing

your accusations are just hilarious at this point, i make a point that is literally the opposite of what putin said in public and you are like KREMLIN NARRATIVE REEEEE

you never fail to make people laugh, how about you try being a comedian?

who says i think russia is not "allowed" to have a sphere of influence? what about belarus? it's basically a russian puppet state. if russia had good "arguments" to convince its neighbours to remain in its sphere of influence, and those countries decided they WANT to remain in it, i'd be the last person to oppose their people's will.
that's not the situation though. russia has repeatedly oppressed and invaded former warsaw pact allies, has basically nothing of worth to offer, and almost exclusively relies on its military strength in order to negotiate. that's been a losing strategy for decades. you posted the map enough here to realise that.

ukraine is a sovereign country. the world, including russia, agreed to that back in the 90s. murdering civilians in order to conquer sovereign countries that you want in your sphere of influence is bad, mkay? not my fault that you're not smart enough to understand that.

had russia approached them with economic / ideological / historical arguments and convinced them, had the ukrainian people decided for themselves that their future is on russia's side, fair enough, their decision. but ukraine chose prosperity and freedom over dictatorship and destitution, and you should respect that, not root for their murdering by pootin's soldiers.

Wut

The issue that we're discussing is that NATO has expanded the last couple decades and NATO is trying to reel in Ukraine and Ukraine is therefor the place of conflict...

Dishonest NATO shill...