Bro you have to look at whom i quoted to see why i wrote that. The guy will never admit Russian responsibility without deflecting it towards NATO. So i'll just give it to him so we can proceed to talk about Russia like most of the normal people do irl. Im not having high hopes tho.

This post was edited by Neptunus on Jun 26 2023 11:19am

entirely different argument, or better: nice whataboutism.

the US did not invade ukraine and murder its people. NATO did not approach ukraine, they did approach NATO for protection. your mental gymnastics in order to justify this war are just mindblowingly stupid.

feel free to make threads about US regime changes in the middle east and central america, and i will happily join you in condemning their imperialism, but ukraine is NOT one of those cases, you disingenuous war apologist.

No peace agreement could fix crippled bodies and souls

fixed

some people are pretty mad that their POOOOTIN GONE dreams got crushed in a day and the whole thing was barely more than a front for troop movements



fenderp is just arguing semantics more or less (but....but NATO is defensive), because aside from the bombings in the balkans NATO as a whole has not done as much

but its member states are responsible for most of the warmongering, regime changing and proxy wars since 1945

at least two members (US and turkey) are invading and violating borders of multiple countries at this very moment

in no other context people would ever defend this

i understand that, i just don't think it's wise to accept even parts of their fake narrative, because they will act like that's the truth then, and build their narrative from there, taking inch by inch. call out the bullshit where it starts. they can fool themselves, but they should not be allowed to misinform others with their propaganda unopposed. that's how pootin's trolls and the useful idiots who do it for free make progress...

if he made an Iraq/Afghanistan thread he couldn't use it as a crutch to excuse all things russia has ever done. if he had to go a day without referencing the US in the middle east he'd have a stroke.

Preventing more criplled or dead people in the future is worth it of a peace agreement. I'd fight myself for Germany but with a real chance for a breakthrough. These people are sent into huge open fields like sitting ducks.

you edited it to literally the opposite of what i actually posted, lol. as if we needed another example of just how blatantly dishonest you are, lol.

again, what the US did (and does) in other parts of the world is indefensible, and i've been one of their most vocal critics in this sub for years - but this is a thread about ukraine, and you're the one trying to justify a war by making silly little whataboutisms regarding the US.




holy mother of cope! xD

yes right, it was just a clever 4D chess move by your favourite dictator, smartly undermining his own authority, exposing his weakness to the russian public, destroying infrastructure around moscow and fleeing the city in a panic, demonstrating to the whole world what a shitshow he's running, in order to create a "front for troop movements", because he desperately needed that... for... reasons...

imagine buying into every single kremlin narrative, no matter how absurd and ridiculous, and still clutching your pearls when someone points out you're just a little propaganda NPC, lol...

i did not talk to you sweetheart

its absolutely not a kremlin narrative (you dont make any sense) and even folks in the mainstream media have mentioned how fishy this whole thing was

but dont let me stop from vomiting your "KREMLIN REEEEEE" on every post here