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Jun 24 2023 06:22am
Undertrained orcs, mostly convicts with bare hands are heading to Moscow. 4 hours for them to reach it's oblast.
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Jun 24 2023 06:23am
This still is failing to make sense. Wagner is made up of contractors…paid mercenaries, with no real ideological proclivity. Like they didn’t join because prighozin is some great guru. So for 25k people to blindly follow him into in an obvious suicide mission doesn’t make sense.

Is the Wagner command structure really that close and loyal?
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Jun 24 2023 06:46am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 24 2023 02:23pm)
This still is failing to make sense. Wagner is made up of contractors…paid mercenaries, with no real ideological proclivity. Like they didn’t join because prighozin is some great guru. So for 25k people to blindly follow him into in an obvious suicide mission doesn’t make sense.

Is the Wagner command structure really that close and loyal?


In dictatorships, there're always suppressed groups seeking power waiting for an opportunity like in a shark frenzy. Prigoshin alone isn't as problematic but if other groups could rally up their support quick enough to attack Kremlin then you'll have a civil war in no time. So yeah, the danger of a civil war in Russia is real.

I'd do it like this Ukrainian for now:


This post was edited by babun1024 on Jun 24 2023 06:51am
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Jun 24 2023 07:06am
The plot thickens

50% chance for Prigozhin to kill the real Putin...

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Jun 24 2023 07:25am
Quote (Djunior @ Jun 24 2023 03:06pm)
The plot thickens

50% chance for Prigozhin to kill the real Putin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYOK86XBsNs


Apparently, Putin fled to Sankt Petersburg (unconfirmed), same with Shoigu and Gerasimov.
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Jun 24 2023 07:29am
ah the country filled with drunken orcs is attacking itself.. nobody could see the mercenary leader trying his hand..
**shocker.. must be weird to be a cheerleader for this shithole.
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Jun 24 2023 07:32am
hard to say whats really happening there, reports are all over the place

a video from rostov showed civilians supporting wagner mercenaries with food and water, so maybe they have some public support?

a few weeks back they grinded through bachmut despite the conflict with the russian army only to fully turn on them while ukraine is counterattacking

aside from hardcore conspiracies like the multi billion accounting "error" in washington being payment for the mercenaries, this is definitely the weirdest rebellion
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Jun 24 2023 07:35am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jun 24 2023 03:32pm)
hard to say whats really happening there, reports are all over the place

a video from rostov showed civilians supporting wagner mercenaries with food and water, so maybe they have some public support?

a few weeks back they grinded through bachmut despite the conflict with the russian army only to fully turn on them while ukraine is counterattacking

aside from hardcore conspiracies like the multi billion accounting "error" in washington being payment for the mercenaries, this is definitely the weirdest rebellion


We don't know the real background info. Maybe, them turning on Putin is the logical outcome.
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Jun 24 2023 07:38am
Quote (babun1024 @ Jun 24 2023 06:35am)
We don't know the real background info. Maybe, them turning on Putin is the logical outcome.


I think most people that are not bootlickers would realize Putin is bad for RU. I could see public support for this.
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Quote (babun1024 @ Jun 24 2023 03:25pm)
Apparently, Putin fled to Sankt Petersburg (unconfirmed), same with Shoigu and Gerasimov.


So, in a nutshell:

Rostov on Don (logistical center and headquarters of the Ukraine operation) taken by Wagner (no shots fired), military top brass fled together with the president while Progozhin (Putin's friend) is marching on Moscow with his Kremlin equipped and supplied mercenary army.

Makes me scratch my head...


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