https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-science-suggests-a-wuhan-lab-leak-11622995184



agree we'll never prove it most likely, BUT:

if it came from wuhan lab, and wuhan lab is doing gain of function research, and GOF research is genetic manipulation, and this spreads like no previously observed corona virus before, etc etc etc. Eventually the probability that this virus escaped the lab but also wasnt genetically altered with GOF research becomes pretty unrealistic.

"In gain-of-function research, a microbiologist can increase the lethality of a coronavirus enormously by splicing a special sequence into its genome at a prime location. Doing this leaves no trace of manipulation"

This is untrue. Splicing in genes leaves tell-tale signs of gene manipulation, most easy to identify are restriction sites. These are specific sequences used to cut and reconnect genes and parts of genes and can be easily screened for. There is currently no way to "add a special sequence" without leaving these and other markers of manipulation, and the examples of GOF experiments undertaken at the lab as recently as 2015 have used this technology.



As I've said many times, there may be some new secret technology developed in China to insert specific genes at specific locations leaving no markers, but until we know what that technology is and how to test for it, there isn't evidence of manipulation.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 9 2021 12:34pm

Which do you think is the bigger problem?

Why do you think you had the reflexive desire to deflect from damning criticism of fauci?

i'll have to take your word for it, everything im getting is either shit sources im tossing a million grains of salt on or Op ed pieces in big publications that seem to be testing the waters on this topic. heard biden directed intel to look into it, so should be spicy.

We should definitely look into it. It would be incredibly exciting and scary if there were ways to insert genes at specific locations without markers. If it exists, we absolutely must know about it and find ways to test for it. Possibly outlaw it entirely since it would allow for stealth genetic manipulation.


So I'm not being totally complete in my explanation. There are ways to manipulate viruses without leaving markers, but it's really unpredictable and hard to control. So basically you take a virus and start passaging it through a target. So if you have a bat virus, you just purposefully infect bats with it over and over. Every few weeks, you introduce an infected bat to a new bat colony and isolate the new viruses that come off the new bats. The problem with this method is it's basically just random. You have no way to know if it's going to produce a more infectious virus, and there's no good way to put custom things into the virus. You're basically just hoping random mutation makes a more favorable one. The Wuhan CDC was pretty open about the viruses they had in stock and their sequences prior to Covid, and the most similar virus to the current Covid strain is something like 4% different. In viral terms, that's massive. The odds of mutating 4% of a 30,000 strand RNA in a specific way to generate a new virus is overwhelmingly unlikely. Like, millions of years of evolution to happen unlikely.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jun 9 2021 12:41pm

you are calling people dumb, while telling low IQ lies

stop lying if you want anyone to take you seriously mister batsoup

there was no lockdown in sweden, period

https://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/vaccine-effectiveness-its-all-about-presentation

Lmao



Rofl, if such a thing exists, it would be surely in best hands of usa. right ^^

This post was edited by Melatonina on Jun 9 2021 01:11pm

my main tinfoil idea is that i ask "why a lab in china and not the US"? lack of oversight, lack of academic oversight, control of reporting on its activities, etc.

if there's a place in the world repeatedly infecting animals to try and get a more hazardous version of a virus just so they can then run tests on how to combat it its going on in China.

no proof, but logically its not a problem.

my mother has a friend that married in sweden and lives there.
she said they would never knew covid existed unless if they turned on TV.
later during the year, some pubs closed their indoor area but it was minority of them, and they still had outdoors opened. (majority worked normally)

there was no lockdowns, isolations, mandatory masks or anything.
but if you doubt people that live there, ask Thor to tell you what his TV told him. it's more reliable.

I'm happy lockdowns helped, look how deaths skyrocketed in sweden during 2020/2021 while they didn't follow the instructions. they should have followed what USA did, in which millions died.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/SWE/sweden/death-rate



This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Jun 9 2021 01:23pm

exactly, they cancelled bigger events and gatherings obviously and thats it

the next hardest super lockdown measure was closing bars at like 9pm