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Jun 18 2023 10:05am
The Irish president, and his wife, have ever been sidelined by the Irish Government (my government is keen to join Nato). Last year when the presidents wife called for peace she was told to stay at home and do the dishes, this time around the president and his wife were just flat ignored:

credit: Irish State News (rte):

Tánaiste Micheál Martin has defended his decision to convene the Government's Consultative Forum on International Security after criticism from President Michael D Higgins, who said Ireland is "playing with fire" during a dangerous period of "drift" in foreign policy. The President has also warned about moving away from Ireland's traditional policy of "positive neutrality". The forum meets this week to discuss neutrality and other issues. In an interview with the Business Post, President Higgins highlighted the composition of the panels at the forum saying they include "the admirals, the generals, the air force, the rest of it" as well as "the formerly neutral countries who are now joining NATO."

He also referred to the chair of the forum - Louise Richardson - as a person "with a very large DBE - Dame of the British Empire", adding that it was grand but he could have come up with a few speakers himself. The forum will meet in Cork, Galway and Dublin from next Thursday.

This was after remarks earlier in the year by Micheál Martin implying his wish to join Nato.

Note1 : Ireland has a rotating leadership right now, Michael Martin and Leo Varadkar, the leaders of two separate parties (both in government coalition) alternate the leadership between them, for the last few years now.
Note2 : Ireland has a President which is more of a honorary role with little or no power. President Michael D Higgins is in some quarters referred to as Bilbo (Baggins). He is very well spoken and well regarded but the government hates him, noting he ever voices concerns about the governments wishes to ditch its neutrality, and their view that its not time for peace in Ukraine (the government follows the Nato line - there will be no peace until the US says so, and anyone else suggesting peace is not a friendly and should be dealt with).

India, Africa, China those not directly involved see the war as a conflict between the US and Russia.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 18 2023 10:19am
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Jun 18 2023 10:57am
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2014 Ukraine wasn't a coup : it was a parliament vote with constitutional majority (more than 72% to kick out the president vs 0% against)
Cutting funds to the max.


A bit like the pension reform in France your mean, the president decided to go ahead ^_^

and he did NOT sign the EU - Ukraine Association Agreement, leading to Euromaidan 2014

This is where it all started --> Crimea + uprisings in the East of Ukraine.

It's undeniable.
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Jun 18 2023 11:14am
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A bit like the pension reform in France your mean, the president decided to go ahead ^_^

and he did NOT sign the EU - Ukraine Association Agreement, leading to Euromaidan 2014

This is where it all started --> Crimea + uprisings in the East of Ukraine.

It's undeniable.


"This is where it all started" , "undeniable" ... Doing shortcut with France (Of course... Usual personal attack)

Even in France you can remove the president (but it require an investigation) with parliament 2/3 majority. Even in U.S (impeachment)

Regular parliament 2/3 vote against a Putin's puppet wasn't "a coup" ... :lol: This is only good for pro-ruscit propaganda.

You better put that in your head.
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Jun 18 2023 11:40am
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"This is where it all started" , "undeniable" ... Doing shortcut with France (Of course... Usual personal attack)

Even in France you can remove the president (but it require an investigation) with parliament 2/3 majority. Even in U.S (impeachment)

Regular parliament 2/3 vote against a Putin's puppet wasn't "a coup" ... :lol: This is only good for pro-ruscit propaganda.

You better put that in your head.


You're completely dishonest. YOU dodged for like half a dozen times the energy issue because Hungary is RIGHT, it's dependent on Russian energy.

Then YOU denied that Euromaidan was a coup while the legitimate Ukrainian president was ousted and the protesters were encouraged by the West. It's undeniable.

And now you come up with complete CRAP that my last post is a personal attack on your fragile soul? WTF are you even doing here in PARD



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Jun 18 2023 11:44am
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nothing new, the former israeli president confirmed a while ago that there was a deal in place to prevent the war, but washington went POOOTIN REEEEEEE into the proxy war
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Jun 18 2023 12:21pm
"when will there be a ceasefire?"
"when the US wants one, if the US wants one".

the video is basically what I had eluded to some months ago and why the China deal is irrelevant.



This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 18 2023 12:35pm
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Jun 18 2023 12:36pm
NYT: Evidence suggests Russia blew Kakhovka dam

https://news.yahoo.com/nyt-evidence-suggests-russia-blew-140011304.html

- The dam's foundation was built to withstand almost any kind of external attack, excluding Ukraine's responsibility for the matter.
- An explosion within the gallery destroyed part of the concrete structure and that other sections then were torn away by the force of the water.


Quote (Djunior @ 18 Jun 2023 19:40)
You're completely dishonest. YOU dodged for like half a dozen times the energy issuebecause Hungary is RIGHT, it's dependent on Russian energy.
Then YOU denied that Euromaidan was a coup while the legitimate Ukrainian president was ousted and the protesters were encouraged by the West. It's undeniable.
And now you come up with complete CRAP that my last post is a personal attack on your fragile soul? WTF are you even doing here in PARD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eyhO8VTdg
https://i.imgur.com/gf6IQey.jpg


Parliament constitutional vote is not a coup, dodging at its best.
Putin used militias, even own special troops, in 2014

Russian regime is doing bad things since the 2000's so time travel regarding Rus.Fed. or USSR is a VERY BAD IDEA....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko#TCDD_poisoning

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Jun 18 2023 12:41pm
Quote (ferdia @ 18 Jun 2023 20:21)
"when will there be a ceasefire?"
"when the US wants one, if the US wants one".

the video is basically what I had eluded to some months ago and why the China deal is irrelevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dym6H8cnQs


Phony Danny Haiphong is getting paid by the CCP, I would advise anyone to not watch this thing.

This guy, on the other hand, publish amazing content & info...



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Phony Danny Haiphong is getting paid by the CCP, I would advise anyone to not watch this thing.

This guy, on the other hand, publish amazing content & info...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xcvDMDg8TY


I did say I would ignore you, but a quick comment - i watch that guys' video's as well. If the US is able to say China is a threat, and place its Navy in a blockade around China, with a narrative of "Russia Bad, China Bad, Putin must be ousted, China next", and if we also have "we must have regime change in Russia and lets keep equippnig Taiwan with reapons" then *shrugs* whats the problem when China says the US is threatening them ? is it not a fact that the US has said that China is the enemy ? And well Covid, blaming the US on Covid is no different then Trump calling it the China Flu. Is it that because you dont like China that you cant look at things on balance ?

anyway thank you for providing that video there is reference to the article so i will go google translate it and read it.

TLDR: China is basically accepting that the US means to go to war with them, and that the US show no indication of backing off (i could have told them this last year...). This basically means the grey area of will there or wont there be a war with China is becoming brighter and brighter. Remember, China is not on the US doorstep, the US is on China's doorstep (like they are with Russia). I see no route to peace noting Trump won't be elected and even if he was it would only delay the inevitable. All other US politicians, that matter, want war.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 18 2023 01:07pm
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Quote (ferdia @ 18 Jun 2023 21:02)
I did say I would ignore you, but a quick comment - i watch that guys' video's as well. If the US is able to say China is a threat, and place its Navy in a blockade around China, with a narrative of "Russia Bad, China Bad, Putin must be ousted, China next", and if we also have "we must have regime change in Russia and lets keep equippnig Taiwan with reapons" then *shrugs* whats the problem when China says the US is threatening them ? is it not a fact that the US has said that China is the enemy ? And well Covid, blaming the US on Covid is no different then Trump calling it the China Flu. Is it that because you dont like China that you cant look at things on balance ?

anyway thank you for providing that video there is reference to the article so i will go google translate it and read it.

TLDR: China is basically accepting that the US means to go to war with them, and that the US show no indication of backing off (i could have told them this last year...). This basically means the grey area of will there or wont there be a war with China is becoming brighter and brighter. Remember, China is not on the US doorstep, the US is on China's doorstep (like they are with Russia). I see no route to peace noting Trump won't be elected and even if he was it would only delay the inevitable. All other US politicians, that matter, want war.


I would pick the one that doesn't send its people in working camps while stealing their properties and destroying their culture. Just ignore me please.
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