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Jun 17 2023 06:27am
Quote (ferdia @ Jun 17 2023 08:56am)
If you put to one side the current narrative spun in the west about putin (i know this is hard), and ignore for a moment any toxic users that may respond to my post between now and when you read this, there were clear tell signs throughout the last 20years that indicated that Russia was not happy with what Nato was doing. If you look specifically at events relating to Ukraine, you can see and read enough about the minsk accords and his attempt to negotiate a deal with the US just before the war, that this was a move of last resort, when all else failed.

Understand I am not talking about right or wrong, I am talking about causes of the conflict. By most accounts (again, ignoring the current MSM narrative) Putin is not an idiot. If he was going to "make russia great again" he would have done it much sooner, say, in the early 2000's. invading ukraine, would ever cause nato to respond, and he knows nato has more stuff. He knows this and yet still he did it. In 2014 he was about to lose his base of operations for his navy, therefore he reacted. The logic then and now looks more like that he saw what was happening as a threat. he has not invaded all of ukraine, he is just securing the parts that he believes he needs. the force that attacked ukraine was not enough to take over the country. the force he currently has is not enough to take over the country. therefore it is a limited invasion. this does not match with the narrative that he wants to invade finland, poland or where-ever.

do you think he wants all of ukraine, and to invade poland/finland etc ? no one knows, its all speculation, but what do you think his aim is here ?

just think about it for a minute.

In order for there to be a resolution to the conflict there needs to be an acknowledgement of the reasons for the conflict.



Ruscim actually means actually racism, against russians, as was pointed out, in the wiki, which you posted.


You are so far detached from reality. You have very little understanding of what Putins motivations were for invading.

Like others your blinded by a dislike of NATO and US foreign policy that when Putin does the exact same thing you scramble for ways to justify it.

Even asking for people to forget what they think of Putin to apply your narrative. Whilst all the time you maintain a rationale against NATO/ The Collective West/US Forgeign policy.
Akin to saying : "Allow yourself to be completely objective; Whilst I myself remain completely subjective"

The narrative you and others push only makes sense if you are a hypocrite. Even demanding theories are believed as fact without any evidence whatsoever. NS2's destructionand its revolving door of those you deem responsible with zero evidence.

And it's just so blatantly obvious aswell.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jun 17 2023 06:32am
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Jun 17 2023 06:42am
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You are so far detached from reality. You have very little understanding of what Putins motivations were for invading.

Like others your blinded by a dislike of NATO and US foreign policy that when Putin does the exact same thing you scramble for ways to justify it.

Even asking for people to forget what they think of Putin to apply your narrative. Whilst all the time you maintain a rationale against NATO/ The Collective West/US Forgeign policy.
Akin to saying : "Allow yourself to be completely objective; Whilst I myself remain completely subjective"

The narrative you and others push only makes sense if you are a hypocrite. Even demanding theories are believed as fact without any evidence whatsoever. NS2's destructionand its revolving door of those you deem responsible with zero evidence.

And it's just so blatantly obvious aswell.


try not to double post so much.
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Jun 17 2023 06:45am
Quote (ferdia @ Jun 17 2023 01:42pm)
try not to double post so much.


Try not to double standard so much.
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Jun 17 2023 06:46am
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Try not to double standard so much.


try not to flame so much?

and you should look up what the expression double standards means, as you are prone to it.

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Jun 17 2023 07:09am
He really just posts the same rant everyday lol
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Jun 17 2023 07:25am
Double Standards:

Example 1: Where a user is constantly flaming in the topic, and, when one or more users flame back, they are accused of being bullies.
This is an example of double standards.

Example 2: Where a user responds to another user, and tells that user not to respond back.
This is also an example of double standards.

I can go on all day, but its pointless, so back to the blocked list you go.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 17 2023 07:25am
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Jun 17 2023 08:01am
Must note down the memorable trip for south african president :o
Starting with Bucha massacre visit, ending with air defense alerts in Kiyv (another batch of unstoppable hypersonic missiles got stopped)
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/ukraine-russia-news-live-kyiv-025512740.html

Quote (ferdia @ 17 Jun 2023 15:25)
Double Standards:

Example 1: Where a user is constantly flaming in the topic, and, when one or more users flame back, they are accused of being bullies.
This is an example of double standards.

Example 2: Where a user responds to another user, and tells that user not to respond back.
This is also an example of double standards.

I can go on all day, but its pointless, so back to the blocked list you go.


It's ok if you are not involving "flaming" or "personal attacks" when others posters are simply pointing out blatant lies about a wikipedia article or nationalist/religious content like here:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=648061757
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=648085793
Ofc with all respect: such comments must always be documented using respectable sources & language.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jun 17 2023 08:02am
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Jun 17 2023 08:30am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jun 17 2023 03:01pm)
Must note down the memorable trip for south african president :o
Starting with Bucha massacre visit, ending with air defense alerts in Kiyv (another batch of unstoppable hypersonic missiles got stopped)
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/ukraine-russia-news-live-kyiv-025512740.html



It's ok if you are not involving "flaming" or "personal attacks" when others posters are simply pointing out blatant lies about a wikipedia article or nationalist/religious content like here:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=648061757
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=648085793
Ofc with all respect: such comments must always be documented using respectable sources & language.


that first link, broadly, is a wiki about india's religious belief that humanity came from africa to india (and is irrelevant to the discussion).
that second link is based on racism as can be evidenced in the first link in that wiki. which i pointed out to you, repeatedly.

this is not hard to refute ok, and has nothing to do with double standards.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 17 2023 08:40am
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Jun 17 2023 08:37am
Quote (ferdia @ Jun 17 2023 01:46pm)
try not to flame so much?

and you should look up what the expression double standards means, as you are prone to it.


No flaming here stop playing the victim. If you continue posting false narratives I'll continue keeping them in check.

Your entitled to interpret the facts as.you wish, but if you post a narrative here based on fallacious logic then expect to be called out on it.

You post false narrative, I call you out. You play the victim and don't even backup your weak logic.
We can rinse repeat as long as you continue to be inaccurate.

Zero integrity to admit you were wrong about NS2 based on your own current assumption. Yet you accuse me of attacking you when I call you out?
Thats a double standard.

Expect people to "forget what they think of Putin" in order to validate your terrible commentary on the cause of the war.
Then continue to base your own position on how you feel about NATO/The West.

That is a pathetic double standard.

Like I said before if you want a safe space to congratulate the shills here supporting a genocide, then do it in private.

Or accept being called out for that. You can't have your cake and eat it unfortunately.
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Jun 17 2023 08:41am
Quote (ferdia @ Jun 17 2023 02:25pm)
Double Standards:

Example 1: Where a user is constantly flaming in the topic, and, when one or more users flame back, they are accused of being bullies.
This is an example of double standards.

Example 2: Where a user responds to another user, and tells that user not to respond back.
This is also an example of double standards.

I can go on all day, but its pointless, so back to the blocked list you go.


Djunior tagged me. As he does most days when I don't respond to him.
I notice your fine with his copious personal attacks, but its not really a surprise based on your record of doublen standards. You give him validation and he gives you an inflated sense of importance.

And there you go doing that thing again. Presenting a false narrative based on how you feel about the situation.

Try to stop doing that.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jun 17 2023 08:43am
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