Its the same fallacy all these anti-west posters embody.

Russia invading and forcibly annexing sovereign territory. "This is fine. This is geopolitics."
Ukraine is invited to enter NATO. "How dare NATO do this!? This is unacceptable."

They can't pay with the same coin because their argument is completely irrational and hypocritical.
Its the same hypocrisy when we see a criticism of the collective west, when really what those critics dislike is US foreign policies; Yet they criticize the west en-masse. But still want to be afforded the same benefits of western culture.
Like not being murdered for being homosexual, free speech and generally not being pressed into special military operations.

All the same shills coming back again and again with the same hypocritical arguments have been smashed from pillar to post; A fitting echo of what is happening to the Russian military in Ukraine.

As far as I know there was no reason to invade Iraq at all. Pentagon presented MSM with fake pics of chemical/nuclear weapons to justify an invasion. Approximately 1 mil Iraqi died for no reason. There was no peace or prosperity after "defeating" Saddam. There was no plan for a new democratic state of Iraq. Everything was bombed to the ground. So many weapons were pumped into the region "for the greater good" that a civil war broke out. ISIS were Iraqi groups who started to spread to Syria. Even more people died, lost homes and were displayed from the region.

One of my biggest concerns in this war is the amount of weaponry delivered to Ukraine without real control. I am 100% sure some of those deliveries land in European black market. When you are at a gun point in 10-20y you'll know where that weapon came from. And no, weapons don't make peace.

9/11 group around Bin Laden was created and financed by CIA. If you want sources I'll gladly share with you. Taliban and Mujaheddin were also created by CIA.

Mujaheddin:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

Al Qaida:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_assistance_to_Osama_bin_Laden

ISIS:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

IRAQ:
https://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/25/europe/tony-blair-iraq-war/index.html

Most of the 9/11 actors were from Germany and Saudi Arabia yet Afghanistan was chosen as the bomb disposal capital.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jun 15 2023 09:57am

I dont think they will read all that but know that I will and thank you for contributing positively to the thread

coincidentally, Nato's Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg was inspired by Tony Blair, no surprises there I guess, birds of a feather.
That article about Tony Blair - completely unrepentant. He knew there were no WMD's, lied to his own people and got away scott free, with the audacity to sermonize about it.

/edit ok im reading from bottom to top, my god that guardian article.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 15 2023 10:11am

Jfc this guardian article

The treatment of Japanese people in the US during WWII is not in any way, shape, or form something we should take inspiration from.

100% dishonest, complete and utter drivel

NATO opened the door for Ukrainian membership in 2008

In 2014 the Ukrainian president was overthrown because he didn't want to sign the EU - Ukraine Association Agreement

The events clearly show that the West was indeed serious and if you wanted more proof history shows continuous rounds of NATO expansion in any case it's literally undeniable

You just keep spamming the same lousy trash propaganda like a complete and utter NATO shill SMH

Blowing up critical infrastructure - What could go wrong?

So does that mean the US will pay reparations to Russia and the EU, or wait, its Ukraine that did it, *wink*, does that mean that Ukraine will pay reparations to the US and EU? wait, Ukraine is at war, with no money, so eventhough the US knew about it, they didnt condone it, so its tough shit for Russia, right ?:P

The US were happy with the ongoing war in Syria they didn't want it to prematurely end. Russia offered cooperation and was denied outright. Then Russia intervened with Assad together and brought peace to the region. The US deliberately stalled Russia or made it hard for them to defeat ISIS
Tony Blair just said a simple "sorry" to over 1 million dead Iraqis because he was forced to speak out. No comments.

Oh it's the same thing last year or something ? "They had intelligence and urged them to not do it" ?

I remember this crew of 6 people has been discharged of any capability to do this sabotage which required alot more material than the very small boat they had.
No proof, just that you are posting with your usual usual India/UEA source.

Great, and you even dare to post Medvedev quotes ? LOL you want others Medvedev quotes ?
In November 2022 Medvedev was quoted as saying on his Telegram app channel that the Ukrainian desire to recapture the territory it had lost to Russia in the annexations "is a threat to the existence of our state and of a dismemberment of today’s Russia", and "direct reason" to use Russia’s nuclear weapons
Plenty of reasons to listen too Medvedev on your India/UEA funded source.....

Btw lets go back in reality: Russian submarine spotted: official report.


This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jun 15 2023 11:33am