Quote (ferdia @ Jun 15 2023 08:52am)

here is another one. think of it as mental torture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lOk-sGh9wA

listening to his words I am pained as well, but its relating to his content. however, as always i like to be informed which is why i watch stuff like this. full steam ahead here for Nato (what could go wrong).

Quote (Djunior @ Jun 15 2023 02:23pm)

I know

He simply wanted my opinion which is that negotiations should take place.

I said so from the beginning of the conflict while ^Meanwhile wanted escalation after escalation and we've seen where that has brought us

Quote (Djunior @ 15 Jun 2023 14:12)

Complete and utterly dishonest

Negotiations means addressing the issues, not dodging them...

So what did I dodge? Nothing.

If your point is that Ukraine will not accept negotiations then just say so instead of producing a trash post

Would surprise anyone by the way because your hero Zelensky made it illegal to negotiate with Russia, remember?

lol

Quote (ferdia @ Jun 15 2023 09:21am)

There is ZERO reason for the US and Ukraine not to talk to Russia. At least that way they will have some idea of do's and dont's and what is or is not on the table. The US has told its allies not to talk to Russia, in much the same way the US has told its people not to talk to China. This is a recipe for disaster.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Jun 15 2023 02:35pm)

For sure "Negotiations" wil happen in time with Putin or his successors, but atm Ukraine has no other choice than chasing away the war criminals atm.
Zelensky made illegal for governement impersonators or influencers to publicly pretend to be able to negociate with Russia, barring all the pro-russians, ex-politicians, propagandists etc to act this way. Perfectly normal.
By the way: Imagine someone pretending to to be able to negociate with Ukraine in Russia without Kremling allowance: free jump ticket through the window. Horrible regime and stupid statement.

Definitely a strong dishonesty or a lack of understanding meaning you are inapt to keep it up. Try with someone else.

Quote (Djunior @ 15 Jun 2023 14:50)

No...

Zelensky made it impossible to negotiate with Russia for as long as Putin holds power

https://jamestown.org/program/zelenskyy-bans-negotiations-with-putin/

So who's unable to keep up? (I guess that's what you meant to say, fixing your broken English for ya ;) )

Cya ^_^

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jun 15 2023 01:10pm)

We'll chalk this up as you dodged. Stretchers gonna stretch.



Utter dogshit. One of the all time worst posts in PARD congrats.



Openly supporting taking down the regime in Kiev... Brilliant from you. Truly astounding.

What a disgraceful existence.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jun 15 2023 02:10pm)

i looked for an argument, but couldnt find one ^_^

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 15 Jun 2023 12:59)

yes, i did not expect putin to take the bait, but with the knowledge i have now i realised that from the russian perspective the invasion was inevitable and any russian leader would have done it

unlike you i take a stance and i am ready to correct it with new information

you are just repeating government tv like a good bimbo no matter what (the same media that was very critical of the ukranian gangster state and its nazis before the invasion)

that being said your last point is just stupid, putin cant invade again once ukraine is full locked into the western block, thats literally what i said in my post, are you that moronic on purpose?

you wont find a single post of mine stating that i want russia to win

you constantly whine about big corp, the US and capitalism, while being the ultimate shill for them

now go back to checking the news 24/7 and celebrate every destroyed russian tank like a good boy

p.s: IF ukraine is really responsible for blowing up our energy supply then i honestly wouldnt mind putin at least taking down the regime in kiev

i will reserve this opinion just in case for all the suffering these actions have caused in germany

now you can deliberately misinterpret my points in bad faith again, as always

Quote (fender @ Jun 15 2023 02:15pm)

oh really? what made a MILITARY INVASION of ukraine "inevitable"? which terrible thing would have happened to russia had they not attacked? what exactly justifies their killing of tens of thousands of innocent people and the destruction of a whole country?

also, pretty rich to clutch your pearls about alleged bad faith arguments in a post where you call me a corporate shill - replying to a post in which i repeatedly condemn war profiteering.

lastly, why is it so difficult for you to see how there is no hypocrisy in criticising corruption and neo-nazis in ukraine, while also acknowledging that both are NOT a justification to invade a country - ESPECIALLY if you're a country with even more corruption and neo-nazis, lol? even though it might not exist in YOUR world, nuance is a thing.