"Uhhhh uhhh uhhh uhhh"

He is so painful to listen to

here is another one. think of it as mental torture.



listening to his words I am pained as well, but its relating to his content. however, as always i like to be informed which is why i watch stuff like this. full steam ahead here for Nato (what could go wrong).

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 15 2023 05:54am

It takes time but things are moving forward, meaning engagement on supplying Ukraine, decided in advance.

Interesting comment:

A Ukrainian Army is a deadly worst possible combination for Russia and would therefore be valuable in NATO as well:
- knows the language of the enemy (everyone there knows Russian). Interrogating prisoners or eavesdropping on conversations is not a problem.
- knows Russian tactics after the old military schools
- she also knows Russian equipment because she had a lot of it herself
- at the same time, however, also learned NATO tactics
- and also already converted to Western equipment.
Russia's worst nightmare.

I answered your question and said that (IMO)

1) Negotiations should take place
2) Peace terms will be written down

All the things you list will be addressed in the peace terms and YOUR concerns will not be included, it's up to Ukraine and Russia only. Deal with it




What you're talking about Scotty #D1shonesty

1) It was over in 3 months noting that the combined West had to jump in to rescue the sinking wreckage called Ukraine and provide literally everything to prop them up...

2) They haven't even mobilized means that Russia hasn't even mobilized despite fighting the combined West.

How is this "moving the goalposts" Scotty?

Just dodging all the questions:

- Do you think Ukrainians will accept their fate and stop fighting ?
- Do you think Russia will accept to give back all what it stole (in museums etc) ?
- Do you think Russia will deliver all the war criminals who were decorated by Putin ?
- Do you think Russia will pay war reparations ?
- Are you sure it will put Europe in a good position for the future ?
- Are you sure Russia will not try, later, to take others territories or small countries (including the rest of Ukraine) ?

More likely YOUR concerns will not be adressed at all: There no peace possible with Putin's Russia. War crime is rampant.
The "peace" solution you described was just a joke like the Chinese peace plan.

Shark dies if it stops swimmlings and a ruscist stays a ruscist.




This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jun 15 2023 06:03am

Complete and utterly dishonest

Negotiations means addressing the issues, not dodging them...

So what did I dodge? Nothing.

If your point is that Ukraine will not accept negotiations then just say so instead of producing a trash post

Would surprise anyone by the way because your hero Zelensky made it illegal to negotiate with Russia, remember?

lol

There is ZERO reason for the US and Ukraine not to talk to Russia. At least that way they will have some idea of do's and dont's and what is or is not on the table. The US has told its allies not to talk to Russia, in much the same way the US has told its people not to talk to China. This is a recipe for disaster.

I am afraid at this points no negotiations are possible. US industrial complex seeks to maximize its profits. You do that by dumping and using older model weapons to create "demand" for newer models. It is necessary for the US to keep its very expensive military industry afloat and ready for majour conflicts. It just happens this time around they do that in Ukraine instead of the middle east. For maximum profit, they'd like Ukraine to fight until the last Ukrainian. Russia isn't going to trust any gouvernment or peace of paper coming from a US led party. USA is known to breach any agreement they sign at any point. Minsk agreement was used to arm Ukraine to the teeth "for the greater good". I am afraid, the ones who suffer the most, Ukrainian civilians, don't have a say in this matter. The war is going to go on until the last Ukrainian resistance.
Russia isn't going to go under due to a very heavy support by China. MSM media are afraid to call out China for what it does. They aren't dumb, they know if Russia fails they're next.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jun 15 2023 06:24am

I know

He simply wanted my opinion which is that negotiations should take place.

I said so from the beginning of the conflict while wanted escalation after escalation and we've seen where that has brought us