NOTHING was dismantled, it's factual and correct and cannot be denied or "dismantled" whatever you mean by that, lol. Ongoing NATO expansion is a FACT.

The only way to proceed IMO is to negotiate and Ukrainian neutrality is a no brainer, Russia won't accept any other outcome. Crimea is a no brainer too but likely all 4 territories that were annexed.

Washington / EU / NATO will fight to the last Ukrainian to prevent that so there's probably a lot of fighting ahead still.

Would've been better to prevent all of this, which was pointed out many times before. It would've saved trillions when you add it all up and at least several hundred thousand lives.

NATO and all pathetic shills have blood on their hands just like Iraq and this one might be a lot worse because the target actually fights back while Iraq was just bombed into dust and everybody laughed about it #D1shonesty




You completely lost the plot

Imagine calling Ukraine a good testing ground.

Pathetic POS

I wonder if Poland will send troops. I mean if the former head of Nato is urging Nato members that they can act unilaterally...

https://www.worlddata.info/country-comparison.php?country1=DEU&country2=RUS#live

Compare the quality of life between Germany and Russia. Then ask yourself why Ukraine might gravitate towards a european/NATO/western trajectory as opposed to a Russian trajectory.
To cherry pick a standout statistic. Average life expectancy for men in Germany is 15 years longer than in Russia; That difference could grow even larger if Putin continues to pour Russian men into a meatgrinder.

Don't believe the bullshit narrative that NATO forced Russia to invade Ukraine. Russia is not existentially threatened by NATO. Putin's regime and his envisioned sphere of influence is threatened by NATO.
Don't believe the bullshit about Sevastopol and Russia's own mismanagement of their black sea fleet. Post 2014 Russia had already annexed Crimea and fully controlled its naval base.

If you were a Russian conscript, would that sphere of influence really be worth dying for?
Whilst the children of oligarchs live out their modelling ambitions in European capitals.

A sad state of affairs, and even more pathetic to be shilling for its justification.

This one will sting bud, you might want to sit down.

https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-ukraine-war-russia-doesnt-have-enough-weapons-and-drones-putin-admits/

"Speaking Tuesday at a meeting of pro-war bloggers in the Kremlin, Putin acknowledged that “during the course of the special military operation, it has become clear there are shortages of many things — precision-guided munitions, communications equipment, aircraft, drones and so on.”

gotta love the ukranian claims that they are inflicting higher casualties right now

in bachmut it made sense, but the current attack without air and artillery supremacy is supposed to cause higher losses on the dug in russians?

that has never happened in the history of modern warfare lol

So, following your clear opinion; giving it all to Russia will guarantee Peace ?

How about war crimes and reparations ? Do you think Ukrainians will accept their fate and stop fighting ? Are you sure it will put Europe in a good position ?



@NATO: Because Russia did nothing wrong...



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jun 14 2023 01:44pm

Sting me? I'm not Russian.

Let me tell YOU what stings though

- Gas station didn't collapse
- "Carefully designed sanctions" massively backfired
- NS sabotaged, energy crisis, inflation
- Putin was never challenged by his generals or the Russian people and no he didn't die of cancer either.
-They didn't run out of missiles back in April last year
-They haven't even fully mobilized

Ouch, ouch, ouch

NATO is in this up to their eyeballs if you didn't notice and it has consequences...






Obviously peace terms will be written down, simply saying trust us NATO won't expand East is not going to work

Your meme is crap for the simple reason that it doesn't work like that. NATO and Russia have spent trillion and trillions and trillions since the cold war in armaments etc. It was literally the most important thing, everything else came second.

Do you really believe a shitty excuse "those countries wanted it" is going to make your adversary say oh well just take it! Do whatever you want! NO it doesn't work like that and smart leaders decades ago understood that.

NATO is up to their eyeballs apparently. Thats why held their largest ever military exercise on monday.
Finland just joined and Sweden has applied to join.

Its incredible what you can achieve when you don't have to rely on mercenaries recruited from prisons; I wonder how those rapists are murders that earned their freedom in Ukraine are getting on back in their villages in Russia. What an incredible situation.

Its clear some posters here are deeply scarred by the war in Iraq, and rightly so. Perhaps they are Iraqi.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jun 14 2023 02:26pm

"The war will be over in 3 months"

"They haven't even fully mobilised!"

Talk about moving the goalposts