You are Frozen when your heart is not open (and harvested)

I don't...

Winter is a good season for him he looks less fat in a big coat

to appear in the western media, russia had to give some litle victory to ukrain, now west and ukrain admited that counter offensiv is in progress ( and ofc on the winning way, if not they would have not admited it.. ), now that western media got their eyes on this counter offensiv and russia, this last can grind ukrain and finish with them.

in my opinion, ukrainian's time is counted , negociation coming soon if they are not stupid. But i got a doubt on Zelensky, he is a crazy guy, dunno if he can admit that his government failled, almost sure this guy will not hesited to fire on zaporijia nuclear power plant .

Even if ukrain decide to make some negociation with russia, i bet the western world will not stop their sanction against russia ,even if their is a cease fire or a peace negocation...

Leopard tanks and Bradleys captured?

Ehh maybe. They are in no-mans land and probably damaged. They would be neat trophies and good propaganda but from a tech perspective largely useless. We're not really giving Ukraine much that if captured would be a huge risk of tech duplication. Leopards are 40 year old tanks, Bradley's the same and nothing particularly special.

What this last week did is put a serious dent in the "Ukraine will win because of superior NATO tech" narrative. Reality is modern weapons are really good, and their counters, (mines, artillery, helicopter overwatch) are more than sufficient to take down previous generation hand me downs.

Pretty funny, that as soon as we see destroyed Leopards, Baerbock takes issue with calling these tanks German.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jun 13 2023 12:32pm

We see Russians inspecting the vehicles which most likely means they've towed some vehicles out for trophy value.

By the way huge disaster confirmed --> Leopard / Bradley / MRAP losses.

Poor Ukrainian tactics bordering on stupidity, directly assaulting strong defensive lines created by the Russians well in advance including minefields, anti tank obstacles, trench systems etc --> Ukraine's 47th brigade (elite unit trained by NATO) mauled by Russian artillery, Kornets and AT missiles fired by KA 52 Alligators.




This was the attack on Robotyne, was quick to shit on the sources as per usual. Western MSM still don't say a word that means it didn't happen right, ?

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&o=29470

Dutch have released a batch of info about Nord Stream bombing.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dutch-intelligence-tipped-cia-alleged-ukraine-plan-attack-nord-stream-nos-2023-06-13/

Throwing Ukrainians under the bus?


PS:
Okay girls, I skipped the past 50 pages. Been playing Diablo4. What’s new? Our resident Scottish scammer still at large? Our French nato apologist still doesn’t make sense?

This post was edited by Malopox on Jun 13 2023 01:00pm

There was a story about the US retro-fitting tanks with sub par armor because they did not want the tech compromised. have not read anything recently about it, maybe BS. ill go read some more.



yes no change on both counts. you didnt miss much. overall the west is not quick to blame russia for blowing up the dam. still mulling over that.

NS2 is utter bullshit no matter what way i look at it. it makes no sense for the US to bar a UN investigation yet thats exactly what they did. im going to roll my eyes and move on.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jun 13 2023 01:26pm