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Jun 6 2023 11:43am
Quote (Norlander @ Jun 6 2023 07:35pm)
Yes, two extemums within a month. Suspicious, keeping in my mind the fact who actually control the dam.


Russia controls it since the invasion right?

But Russians blowing the dam makes no sense to me, the narrative has always been that Ukraine needed to recapture the dam if they want to hurt the Russians in Crimea (by shutting down water to Crimea)
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Jun 6 2023 11:53am
Quote (Djunior @ 6 Jun 2023 20:43)
Russia controls it since the invasion right?

But Russians blowing the dam makes no sense to me, the narrative has always been that Ukraine needed to recapture the dam if they want to hurt the Russians in Crimea (by shutting down water to Crimea)


Crimea was surviving 9 years without water supply from Kherson oblast so it's not the reason. Also the Russian controlled side of Dnipro is down the river. Probably the main strike of Ukrainian counteroffensive was aimed at both Kakhovska dam and Zaporizhzhia NPP. Otherwise there's no point at all for Russians to blow the dam.
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Quote (Norlander @ Jun 6 2023 02:35pm)
Yes, two extemums within a month. Suspicious, keeping in my mind the fact who actually control the dam.


Is there any publicly available information on the water levels of dams further north?
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Jun 6 2023 11:58am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 6 Jun 2023 20:53)
Is there any publicly available information on the water levels of dams further north?


Check the site where I got the info, but it doesn't matter. Unless it's a Kyev dam.
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Jun 6 2023 11:59am
okay, so now russia blew up a dam, which was a critical water resource for territory they hold and the destruction would result in russian positions getting flooded more so than ukranian ones

makes total sense once again :santa:

Quote (Norlander @ Jun 6 2023 07:53pm)
Crimea was surviving 9 years without water supply from Kherson oblast so it's not the reason. Also the Russian controlled side of Dnipro is down the river. Probably the main strike of Ukrainian counteroffensive was aimed at both Kakhovska dam and Zaporizhzhia NPP. Otherwise there's no point at all for Russians to blow the dam.


iirc they had massive water problems though, especially in agriculture

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Jun 6 2023 12:06pm
I doubt Ukrainians were jelly about water supply of Crimea for past 14 months. Cutting ammo supplies and making Bakhmut the only hub for such things for Russians makes sense, not the water supply, unless they are going to destroy Crimean bridge completely.

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Jun 6 2023 12:13pm
Break this dam is good for the two parts. Less frontline.

E: in m'y opinion ukrain did this .they want explose Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Station , to rallye more people from euro and the world with them.

This post was edited by Pisior on Jun 6 2023 12:19pm
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Jun 6 2023 12:36pm
Quote (MSX98 @ 6 Jun 2023 21:26)


The audio part seems solid
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Jun 6 2023 12:43pm
pootin's three weeks special operation has destroyed a whole country. russians just need to pack up and go home already. ukraine is not theirs. they've done enough damage. the whole world wants russia to finally end the senseless killing, but pootin and his brainless followers keep making excuses to further escalate the conflict.

there could be peace tomorrow if pootin wanted to. we all know that. but he doesn't. he wants to conquer. he wants to slaughter. he wants to destroy. his ego is killing women and children every day. what a disgusting pos you'd have to be to root for the russian invaders and blame the victims...
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