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Oct 3 2018 08:32pm
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/409817-russia-collusion-bombshell-dnc-lawyers-met-with-fbi-on-dossier-before

Congressional investigators have confirmed that a top FBI official met with Democratic Party lawyers to talk about allegations of Donald Trump-Russia collusion weeks before the 2016 election, and before the bureau secured a search warrant targeting Trump’s campaign.

Former FBI general counsel James Baker met during the 2016 season with at least one attorney from Perkins Coie, the Democratic National Committee’s private law firm.

That’s the firm used by the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to secretly pay research firm Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence operative, to compile a dossier of uncorroborated raw intelligence alleging Trump and Moscow were colluding to hijack the presidential election.

The dossier, though mostly unverified, was then used by the FBI as the main evidence seeking a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant targeting the Trump campaign in the final days of the campaign.

The revelation was confirmed both in contemporaneous evidence and testimony secured by a joint investigation by Republicans on the House Judiciary and Government Oversight committees, my source tells me.

It means the FBI had good reason to suspect the dossier was connected to the DNC’s main law firm and was the product of a Democratic opposition-research effort to defeat Trump — yet failed to disclose that information to the FISA court in October 2016, when the bureau applied for a FISA warrant to surveil Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

“This is a bombshell that unequivocally shows the real collusion was between the FBI and Donald Trump’s opposition — the DNC, Hillary and a Trump-hating British intel officer — to hijack the election, rather than some conspiracy between Putin and Trump,” a knowledgeable source told me.

Baker was interviewed by lawmakers behind closed doors on Wednesday. Sources declined to divulge his testimony, other than to say it confirmed other evidence about the contact between the Perkins Coie law firm and the FBI.

The sources also said Baker’s interview broke new ground both about the FBI’s use of news media in 2016 and 2017 to further the Trump case and about Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s conversations in spring 2017 regarding possible use of a body wire to record Trump.

“The interview was one of the most productive we had and it opened up many new investigative leads,” one source said.

Another said Baker could not answer some questions about FBI media contacts, citing an ongoing investigation by the Justice Department inspector general into alleged illegal leaks, during and after the election, about the Trump collusion probe and other matters.

These revelations illustrate anew how much the FBI and Justice Department have withheld from the public about their collaboration and collusion with clearly partisan elements of the Clinton campaign and the DNC, Fusion and Steele, that were trying to defeat Trump.

The growing body of evidence that the FBI used mostly politically-motivated, unverified intelligence from an opponent to justify spying on the GOP nominee’s campaign — just weeks before Election Day — has prompted a growing number of Republicans to ask President Trump to declassify the rest of the FBI’s main documents in the Russia collusion case.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), House Freedom Caucus leaders Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), veteran investigator Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) and many others have urged the president to act on declassification even as FBI and Justice Department have tried to persuade the president to keep documents secret.

Ryan has said he believes the declassification will uncover potential FBI abuses of the FISA process. Jordan said he believes there is strong evidence the bureau misled the FISA court. Nunes has said the FBI intentionally hid exculpatory evidence from the judges.

And Meadows told The Hill’s new morning television show, Rising, on Wednesday that there is evidence the FBI had sources secretly record members of the Trump campaign.

“There’s a strong suggestion that confidential human sources actually taped members within the Trump campaign,” Meadows told Hill.TV hosts Krystal Ball and Ned Ryun.
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Oct 3 2018 08:38pm
This story will pick up in a week once BK is confirmed. I’ll start off by saying:

Collusion confirmed?
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Oct 4 2018 06:54am
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Congressional investigators have confirmed that a top FBI official met with Democratic Party lawyers to talk about allegations of Donald Trump-Russia collusion weeks before the 2016 election, and before the bureau secured a search warrant targeting Trump’s campaign.


Obtaining a FISA warrant on Carter Page after he left the campaign is not "targeting Trump's campaign".

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It means the FBI had good reason to suspect the dossier was connected to the DNC’s main law firm and was the product of a Democratic opposition-research effort to defeat Trump — yet failed to disclose that information to the FISA court in October 2016, when the bureau applied for a FISA warrant to surveil Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.


The FISA warrant said that the information was sought to discredit Trump's campaign. Whether it was funded by Hillary, the DNC, George Soros, or the Bilderberg Group, what does it matter?

Also, they forgot to include "former" Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

Quote (djman72 @ Oct 3 2018 09:38pm)
This story will pick up in a week once BK is confirmed. I’ll start off by saying:

Collusion confirmed?


You dodging bruh?

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Oct 5 2018 06:52am
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 3 2018 09:20am)
How confident are you really? My 1,000 FG(i'll buy it) vs your 2,000 FG, sometime in 2019 one or more of Trump's inner circle will be indicted on charges related to collusion/conspiracy with the Russians. Santara mediator.


djman is dodging hard. Any Trumpists want to take this bet? If it's so unlikely that Trump's inner circle conspired with the Russians during the campaign, 1:2 odds seems more than fair. I'm thinking that you guys aren't as confident as you say.
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Oct 5 2018 04:19pm
Quote (IceMage @ 5 Oct 2018 08:52)
djman is dodging hard.

thread started 18 months ago - now youre begging for a bet after they got Manafort for ducking taxes and washing bills during the Obama administration and Papadadadapapalppolus got 2 weeks for what was it again, getting the day he talked to someone wrong?

actual planned interaction with the Russian government to directly interfere with the US election.
not shitposting on facebook/twitter or “conspiracy against the US” which turns out to be conspiracy to duck taxes.

since election-deniers such as yourself are so sure of things
My 4k your 10k lmk
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Oct 5 2018 04:39pm
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thread started 18 months ago - now youre begging for a bet after they got Manafort for ducking taxes and washing bills during the Obama administration and Papadadadapapalppolus got 2 weeks for what was it again, getting the day he talked to someone wrong?

actual planned interaction with the Russian government to directly interfere with the US election.
not shitposting on facebook/twitter or “conspiracy against the US” which turns out to be conspiracy to duck taxes.

since election-deniers such as yourself are so sure of things
My 4k your 10k lmk


That was a long-winded dodge.

None of you fellas will agree to this bet because you know there's a fair chance of collusion/conspiracy. Which was sort of the point of my offer... thanks for confirming what I already knew.
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Oct 5 2018 04:43pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 3 2018 07:32pm)
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/409817-russia-collusion-bombshell-dnc-lawyers-met-with-fbi-on-dossier-before

Congressional investigators have confirmed that a top FBI official met with Democratic Party lawyers to talk about allegations of Donald Trump-Russia collusion weeks before the 2016 election, and before the bureau secured a search warrant targeting Trump’s campaign.

Former FBI general counsel James Baker met during the 2016 season with at least one attorney from Perkins Coie, the Democratic National Committee’s private law firm.

That’s the firm used by the DNC and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to secretly pay research firm Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence operative, to compile a dossier of uncorroborated raw intelligence alleging Trump and Moscow were colluding to hijack the presidential election.

The dossier, though mostly unverified, was then used by the FBI as the main evidence seeking a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant targeting the Trump campaign in the final days of the campaign.

The revelation was confirmed both in contemporaneous evidence and testimony secured by a joint investigation by Republicans on the House Judiciary and Government Oversight committees, my source tells me.

It means the FBI had good reason to suspect the dossier was connected to the DNC’s main law firm and was the product of a Democratic opposition-research effort to defeat Trump — yet failed to disclose that information to the FISA court in October 2016, when the bureau applied for a FISA warrant to surveil Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

“This is a bombshell that unequivocally shows the real collusion was between the FBI and Donald Trump’s opposition — the DNC, Hillary and a Trump-hating British intel officer — to hijack the election, rather than some conspiracy between Putin and Trump,” a knowledgeable source told me.

Baker was interviewed by lawmakers behind closed doors on Wednesday. Sources declined to divulge his testimony, other than to say it confirmed other evidence about the contact between the Perkins Coie law firm and the FBI.

The sources also said Baker’s interview broke new ground both about the FBI’s use of news media in 2016 and 2017 to further the Trump case and about Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s conversations in spring 2017 regarding possible use of a body wire to record Trump.

“The interview was one of the most productive we had and it opened up many new investigative leads,” one source said.

Another said Baker could not answer some questions about FBI media contacts, citing an ongoing investigation by the Justice Department inspector general into alleged illegal leaks, during and after the election, about the Trump collusion probe and other matters.

These revelations illustrate anew how much the FBI and Justice Department have withheld from the public about their collaboration and collusion with clearly partisan elements of the Clinton campaign and the DNC, Fusion and Steele, that were trying to defeat Trump.

The growing body of evidence that the FBI used mostly politically-motivated, unverified intelligence from an opponent to justify spying on the GOP nominee’s campaign — just weeks before Election Day — has prompted a growing number of Republicans to ask President Trump to declassify the rest of the FBI’s main documents in the Russia collusion case.

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), House Freedom Caucus leaders Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), veteran investigator Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) and many others have urged the president to act on declassification even as FBI and Justice Department have tried to persuade the president to keep documents secret.

Ryan has said he believes the declassification will uncover potential FBI abuses of the FISA process. Jordan said he believes there is strong evidence the bureau misled the FISA court. Nunes has said the FBI intentionally hid exculpatory evidence from the judges.

And Meadows told The Hill’s new morning television show, Rising, on Wednesday that there is evidence the FBI had sources secretly record members of the Trump campaign.

“There’s a strong suggestion that confidential human sources actually taped members within the Trump campaign,” Meadows told Hill.TV hosts Krystal Ball and Ned Ryun.



Isn't law enforcement expected to investigate criminal organizations? Do you think your criminal organization should be exempt simply because you like it?
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Oct 5 2018 04:47pm
Quote (IceMage @ 5 Oct 2018 18:39)
That was a long-winded dodge.

None of you fellas will agree to this bet because you know there's a fair chance of collusion/conspiracy. Which was sort of the point of my offer... thanks for confirming what I already knew.

nice dodge

i dont need you to make fg you seem to need it from a drumpfer tho funny how that works

youre the fella here who is always sure of all the things so lmk what real odds you want ill wager you up to 10k

This post was edited by excellence on Oct 5 2018 04:47pm
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Oct 5 2018 05:03pm
Quote (excellence @ Oct 5 2018 05:47pm)
nice dodge

i dont need you to make fg you seem to need it from a drumpfer tho funny how that works

youre the fella here who is always sure of all the things so lmk what real odds you want ill wager you up to 10k


I haven't used FG for years, I'm just trying to get one of you to put your money where your mouth is. Nobody is stepping forward.

I guess it's easy to make claims until some pixel currency is on the line. Kind of laughable that none of you are willing to take 1:2 odds, when you constantly proclaim the impossibility of collusion/conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Now we all know what I suspected... you don't really believe what you are saying.
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Oct 5 2018 05:07pm
So now that kav is done we're back on Russia??
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