It's hard to argue with someone that doesn't want to acknowledge basic civics such as that Congress is responsible for spending and creating budgets.

The only thing we've solidified today is Trump is still the focal point of your existence and regardless of issue or topic, you gravitate towards talking about him.

im not typically one for the dog whistling type narratives, but the messaging on republican fiscal responsibility is out of line with the modern reality of fiscal responsibility.

democrat massive spending increases also come with the promise of increased tax collection on corporations to cover the distance. so telling someone who is likely only marginally affected by leftist tax policy that the government will come for their pocket book to feed poor minorities and fund illegal immigrants is disingenuous fear mongering.

if neither party is interested in forwarding a balanced budget neither is fiscally responsible let alone conservative. cutting taxes to cut spending and increasing taxes to increase spending are equally responsible, or irresponsible. the responsible nature here is subjective, the imbalanced nature of the spending and the huckster messaging isn't.

huh? your fellow biden-supporting allies and relatives at the so-called lincoln project. you spammed a ton of their content in 2020 while knowing their leader/your relative was behaving badly. did “qanon” make you do this? of course not dont play dumb D:


well what is that user going to post about with the copycat administration ran by the swamp with harris/biden as the face?

looks like we have another deviation from the Trump playbook: the IRS is getting $80 billion to enforce more tax “collections” when the current government increases every cap gains tax bracket by +50% to +100% in addition to other tax increases

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/27/politics/biden-irs-enforcement/index.html

This post was edited by excellence on Apr 27 2021 12:49pm

It's hard to argue with someone that doesn't want to acknowledge basic civics such as that Congress cannot pass spending or create a budget without the president's signature unless they secure a veto-proof majority.

The only thing we've solidified today is that Trump's incompetence is still a sore point that you refuse to acknowledge, so much so that you want to pretend presidents don't have long-lasting impacts on the country.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 27 2021 12:48pm

It's like we live in dual realities.

One party is saying spend 600b another 2T this is the modern reality I see.

Fiscal conservatism = low taxes, low spending. Both of these are consistent with what we've seen in the last couple of years being pushed by republicans.

Fiscal conservatism may want to achieve a balanced budget by lowering both those things but that's not the central goal.

If that was the central goal we can have 80% taxes with matched spending and end up with a balanced budget but that would be literally the antithesis of what fiscal conservatism is trying to do.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 27 2021 12:53pm

Fiscal conservativism before ever increasing social programs was one thing and included balanced budgets, "fiscal conservativism" in the modern era is a different thing. when republicans try to harken on the old era to gain votes in the modern era this messaging is disingenuous. go ahead and ask a republican about why their budget isn't balanced, you'll get pure whataboutism in line with what you're saying, not an actual admission they have changed, just projection.

this is all unarguable reality, and what im saying, plain and simple. i didnt say both sides are equally bad, although its true that lower taxes make up for a significant portion of the spending gap republicans want to be the focus. im saying both are bad, neither is responsible.

the idea that we cant possibly get back to a balanced budget, even with social programs, is a lie perpetuated by both sides to sell their voters false promises. neither is interested in even trying.

You're not wrong that fiscal conservatives want low taxes and low spending. However, you can't have tax cuts and high spending which is what Republicans stand for with their actions.

Democrats want to raise taxes on certain segments in order to cover the additional spending. To me, that is more fiscally responsible than deficit spending.

sums up my thoughts nicely

People like you make Qanon'ers look sane.



Sure you can.

With steady inflation, eventually entitlements will disappear.

Taxing only increases spending even more, just look at Joe Biden's plans.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Apr 27 2021 01:21pm

Biden: We're not going to help Saudi Arabia with offensive strikes. Only defense.

Saudi Arabia: Oh, good thing 100% of our activities in Yemen are defensive!

Biden: Oh, looks like that checks out. Please continue.