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Oct 3 2018 09:05am
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Except this is completely contrary to what I've already laid out as the parameters.



The probability of some one from his “inner circle” being charged with some dumb shit like perjury or some finance violations is pretty high and has already happened no?. The way you’re defining this best odds should be like 90:10

Edit: for example Manafort involved with Ukrainians. By your loose bet parameter, that would qualify as a win for you.

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they not so confident me thinks
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The probability of some one from his “inner circle” being charged with some dumb shit like perjury or some finance violations is pretty high and has already happened no?. The way you’re defining this best odds should be like 90:10

Edit: for example Manafort involved with Ukrainians. By your loose bet parameter, that would qualify as a win for you.


has manafort been charged with collusion or conspiracy with russia? or just Ukranian stuff that isn't collusion or conspiracy? does Icemage need to list the actual federal charges in play or something?
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Well, the whole collusion thing really died off.

Did we confirm it? Or did the media just silently move off this story for greener smearing pasture (Poor Kav).

Collusion Confirmed?


I wouldn't say it's died down. The whole nation and media has been focused on Kavanaugh these past two weeks, and rightfully so.

Additionally, Mueller is likely honoring the long-held policy of the DoJ of not taking any significant action that might influence an election 60 days prior.
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I wouldn't say it's died down. The whole nation and media has been focused on Kavanaugh these past two weeks, and rightfully so.

Additionally, Mueller is likely honoring the long-held policy of the DoJ of not taking any significant action that might influence an election 60 days prior.


Mueller also has run a tight professional ship the entire time and gives no fucks about where the media is aimed for the flavor of the week

He is probably happy the attention is off of him and his team while he does his job for a few weeks

It's not like the media and twitter attention determine what Mueller is doing they just gossip about it
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has manafort been charged with collusion or conspiracy with russia? or just Ukranian stuff that isn't collusion or conspiracy? does Icemage need to list the actual federal charges in play or something?



If he gets charged with colluding with Ukrainian special interest that lobbied on behalf of some forces does that mean Russia collusion confirmed?

Does it matter if theyre Ukrainians? Or does that still qualify as a win even thought technically those aren’t Russians but Ukrainians. See how this leaves a lot of room for ambiguity?
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If he gets charged with colluding with Ukrainian special interest that lobbied on behalf of some forces does that mean Russia collusion confirmed?

Does it matter if theyre Ukrainians? Or does that still qualify as a win even thought technically those aren’t Russians but Ukrainians. See how this leaves a lot of room for ambiguity?


no i dont. its implied in the bet that collusion/conspiracy must relate to the campaign, perhaps thats what you mean. ukrainian annexation doesnt apply to this bet imo.
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no i dont. its implied in the bet that collusion/conspiracy must relate to the campaign, perhaps thats what you mean. ukrainian annexation doesnt apply to this bet imo.



Manafort allegedly lobbied on behalf of some Ukrainians. Ukrainians=\= Russians. If he gets charged for colluding/lobbying on behalf of Ukrainians does that confirm ‘muh Russia collusion” so icemage wins?

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Manafort allegedly lobbied on behalf of some Ukrainians. Ukrainians=\= Russians. If he gets charged for colluding/lobbying on behalf of Ukrainians does that confirm ‘muh Russia collusion” so icemage wins?


No.

This is a good faith bet. The charges have to be related to a conspiracy with Russia to influence the 2016 election.

BTW, we don't need a mediator, this can be a gentleman's agreement.

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Manafort allegedly lobbied on behalf of some Ukrainians. Ukrainians=\= Russians. If he gets charged for colluding/lobbying on behalf of Ukrainians does that confirm ‘muh Russia collusion” so icemage wins?


no. i said campaign. icemage confirmed. collusion in the 2016 election confirmed.
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