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May 30 2023 11:32am
Quote (Malopox @ 30 May 2023 19:09)
Maybe he got a got a good mortgage offer from VTB.


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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 30 May 2023 19:18)
The fence looks really gross, should be a nice wooden one IMO. I like the house though, very pretty :wub:


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This us :wub:
(I'm the big one!)
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May 30 2023 12:11pm
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Low altitude drones are changing the landscape of AA needs. S-400s were designed for targets like F16s, not flying lawn mowers strapped with explosives that basically can fly at very low altitudes and cost a few bucks.

That's not really an indictment of the effectiveness or lack thereof of the S-400's but rather how drones are completely changing the landscape. If I had to guess most western AA systems similar to S-400 are in the same predicament.

edit: i posted about this awhile back

a single patriot missile cost =4 million

Shaheed drone cost =20k

You can literally fire off 200 drones for the cost of a single AA missile. It's an unprecedented challenge in modern warfare. A few waves of these cheap drones can completely exhaust a cities air defenses.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 30 2023 12:22pm
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May 30 2023 12:20pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ May 30 2023 07:05pm)
"Russia has intercepted 29 Storm Shadow missiles in the past month" - Sergei Shoigu.

His 16M$ house bought with his $120,000 salary
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/30/11/2DF0C1F700000578-3296348-image-a-1_1446205664814.jpg


Oh boi i love this style :drool: but id made a bqckyard like in billkill2 at end with that prominent thai girl... and that wazer pipe dtopping each 10 secs omfg

Nice house but failed at precision. 2/10 -> 120k is okaaay
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May 30 2023 12:27pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 30 May 2023 17:32)
Zelensky will be the chess piece that will be dropped when the time is right.
He should have listened to Trump and sat down and seriously trash it out with Putin with the United States being the mediator.

But then again, he would have to face the Azov Nazis and maybe got pepsi by them and the foreign policy establishment in the United States will have make it difficult for Trump to make that move.
The same Foreign establishment that worked against Barack Obama. ^Malopox, ^Ofthevoid , I believe I read that from you guys when you posted a link the the Obama's Doctrine from Harper Bazaar or was it ^Ferdia?

That is difficult and I feel for him.


Why should Ukraine give anything to Russia, if Russia promised them safety in Budapest deal?
How many deals Ukraine has to make with Russia?
One new deal every 5 years I suppose?
Then the Ukraine would be no more in like 15 years.
Ukrainians trusted Russians in Budapest deal, since Russians betrayed, no future deals are to be trusted with them.
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May 30 2023 12:30pm
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Why should Ukraine give anything to Russia, if Russia promised them safety in Budapest deal?
How many deals Ukraine has to make with Russia?
One new deal every 5 years I suppose?
Then the Ukraine would be no more in like 15 years.
Ukrainians trusted Russians in Budapest deal, since Russians betrayed, no future deals are to be trusted with them.


No one should give anything to anyone. You are a chess piece between two super powers, they play with you and depends what happens around the world , you are the sacrificial lamb.
You can also say Russian trusted Ukraine to remain in a neutral non NATO stance. So no future deals, I am going to come in and take the part where more Russian speaking Ukrainians wants to be with us.

You need to get real.

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May 30 2023 12:37pm
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Have you read this old article (same source as the S400 article that you posted) https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2022/03/24/u-s-asks-turkey-to-transfer-s-400-to-ukraine-and-get-f-35-and-patriot-system/

So the US asked Turkey to give those "useless" S400 systems to Ukraine ^^

Turkey called it "American intelligence propaganda"
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Quote (Djunior @ May 30 2023 07:37pm)
Have you read this old article (same source as the S400 article that you posted) https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2022/03/24/u-s-asks-turkey-to-transfer-s-400-to-ukraine-and-get-f-35-and-patriot-system/

So the US asked Turkey to give those "useless" S400 systems to Ukraine ^^

Turkey called it "American intelligence propaganda"


he does not read the links that he posts, there is no way he will read the links that you post.
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May 30 2023 12:39pm
Quote (Ironfister @ 30 May 2023 20:27)
Why should Ukraine give anything to Russia, if Russia promised them safety in Budapest deal?
How many deals Ukraine has to make with Russia?
One new deal every 5 years I suppose?
Then the Ukraine would be no more in like 15 years.
Ukrainians trusted Russians in Budapest deal, since Russians betrayed, no future deals are to be trusted with them.


There's nothing to "give" anymore that it a certainty, it's impossible to conceive real peace with people like Putin, his "russian empire" project, and... His allies:
CCP "piss plan" which consisted in freezing borders... Jesus is now a fentanyl dealer; endless profit for them (over Russia) and rampant war for us.

No other choice than bringing freedom to russian people, asap, and ultimately they will join the west at some point... ;)
In-between: a possible collapse, little bit of civil war...

Quote (Djunior @ 30 May 2023 20:37)
Have you read this old article (same source as the S400 article that you posted) https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2022/03/24/u-s-asks-turkey-to-transfer-s-400-to-ukraine-and-get-f-35-and-patriot-system/
So the US asked Turkey to give those "useless" S400 systems to Ukraine ^^
Turkey called it "American intelligence propaganda"


S400, hypersonic missiles, armata, and probably many others... All hyped, budget sucked up, sorry to tell you: seems this model doesn't work well.
I am not sure Russian Weapons sales are good.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on May 30 2023 12:43pm
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