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May 30 2023 09:10am
Quote (Djunior @ May 30 2023 04:36pm)
Ukrainian trolls that pop up don't even get banned. Remember this guy going on a pro-Ukraine posting spree posting so much he had at times 6 consecutive posts in this topic including blatant propaganda and spam?

Even made an effort to convince everyone he's from Boston...

https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1379270


Hey i just got a 45 min ban for protesting against that pedotopic protecting dragqueens permission to adopt and raise kids, while he joking about dicksize in this topic etc.
I mean, thats fuckin insane by the mods to keep such a pervert shit running, but well...

Imo mods are payed to be far left. Thats where your taxes go bros
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May 30 2023 09:15am
Quote (Bananii @ 30 May 2023 23:10)
Hey i just got a 45 min ban for protesting against that pedotopic ^handcuff protecting dragqueens permission to adopt and raise kids, while he joking about dicksize in this topic etc.
I mean, thats fuckin insane by the mods to keep such a pervert shit running, but well...

Imo mods are payed to be far left. Thats where your taxes go bros


Certain Mods. Not All I supposed.
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May 30 2023 09:15am
Quote (Djunior @ 30 May 2023 16:36)
Ukrainian trolls that pop up don't even get banned. Remember this guy going on a pro-Ukraine posting spree posting so much he had at times 6 consecutive posts in this topic including blatant propaganda and spam?

Even made an effort to convince everyone he's from Boston...

https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=1379270


Rumour is - this was multi, who got mobilized into Ukranian army and can’t shitpost from the trenches.

They both went offline about the same time and never returned.

This post was edited by Malopox on May 30 2023 09:16am
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Quote (Malopox @ 30 May 2023 23:15)
Rumour is - this was ^Lvivz multi he got mobilized into Ukranian army and can’t shitpost from the trenches.


Although I do not wish that he is pepsi'ed , he probably is , if he is in Ukraine. They pretty much mobilized everyone that they had,when Zelensky Wife is shopping for Hermes Birkin Bags in France, with American Tax Payer's money.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on May 30 2023 09:18am
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May 30 2023 09:20am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 30 2023 05:17pm)
Although I do not wish that he is pepsi'ed , he probably is , if he is in Ukraine. They pretty much mobilized everyone that they had.
Why Zelensky Wife is shopping for Hermes Birkin Bags in France, with American Tax Payer's money.


He should have fought for a diplomatic solution. But NO he wanted it this way. There he goes.
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May 30 2023 09:32am
Quote (Bananii @ 30 May 2023 23:20)
He should have fought for a diplomatic solution. But NO he wanted it this way. There he goes.


Zelensky will be the chess piece that will be dropped when the time is right.
He should have listened to Trump and sat down and seriously trash it out with Putin with the United States being the mediator.

But then again, he would have to face the Azov Nazis and maybe got pepsi by them and the foreign policy establishment in the United States will have make it difficult for Trump to make that move.
The same Foreign establishment that worked against Barack Obama. , , I believe I read that from you guys when you posted a link the the Obama's Doctrine from Harper Bazaar or was it ?

That is difficult and I feel for him.
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May 30 2023 09:40am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 30 2023 05:32pm)
Zelensky will be the chess piece that will be dropped when the time is right.
He should have listened to Trump and sat down and seriously trash it out with Putin with the United States being the mediator.

But then again, he would have to face the Azov Nazis and maybe got pepsi by them and the foreign policy establishment in the United States will have make it difficult for Trump to make that move.
The same Foreign establishment that worked against Barack Obama. ^Malopox, ^Ofthevoid , I believe I read that from you guys when you posted a link the the Obama's Doctrine from Harper Bazaar or was it ^Ferdia?

That is difficult and I feel for him.


He didnt listen to be more objective. We tried alot of times to make him be mlre objective instead of that fanatic nationalistic.. dunno what to say anymore..

If that name didnt fall last hour i wouldnt even have remembered him, but yes, somehow i feel bad for not knowing what happened to him.. even he was such an..

Thats why we need a diplomatic solution instead of braindead violence..
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May 30 2023 09:47am
Most of these presidents or prime ministers are just public figures with a face and in reality don't actually hold significant power. Zelensky is not a 'real' decision maker in all of this, he's just the face. It's the advisors both in the US to Biden or in Ukraine to Zelensky that actually call the shots and those are not always so easy to fully know who they are.

Deep down I think Zelensky when he ran on a platform of reconciling Ukraine's relationship with Russia was at least somewhat genuine. Problem is, it's next to impossible to be an ideologue, you get molded to what the machine wants or you get spit out. Now he basically has two central roles. Act as the 'defiant' leader and go around the globe to try and collect as much money and support as possible.
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May 30 2023 10:22am
Quote (ofthevoid @ 30 May 2023 17:47)
Most of these presidents or prime ministers are just public figures with a face and in reality don't actually hold significant power. Zelensky is not a 'real' decision maker in all of this, he's just the face. It's the advisors both in the US to Biden or in Ukraine to Zelensky that actually call the shots and those are not always so easy to fully know who they are.

Deep down I think Zelensky when he ran on a platform of reconciling Ukraine's relationship with Russia was at least somewhat genuine. Problem is, it's next to impossible to be an ideologue, you get molded to what the machine wants or you get spit out. Now he basically has two central roles. Act as the 'defiant' leader and go around the globe to try and collect as much money and support as possible.


It's actually quite interesting to ask "who's the power behind Zelensky's throne?"

For example, there is this oligarch who I (and many others) thought to be the puppet maser behind him last year, but upon further reading, that seems to no longer be the case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi
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in 2010 Kolomoyskyi was rated as the second richest person in Ukraine, and as one of the country’s most influential oligarchs. In 1992, he had co-founded PrivatBank and its informal extension of companies, Privat Group, and he subsequently acquired extensive media holdings. Between 2014 and 2016, Kolomoyskyi served as Governor of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast until his dismissal by President Petro Poroshenko. That year, his undercapitalised bank was declared a threat to Ukraine’s financial security and taken into state ownership. In 2019, Kolomoyskyi's media power and funding supported Volodymyr Zelenskyy's successful presidential campaign to unseat Poroshenko.

In 2020, he was indicted in the United States, on charges related to large-scale bank fraud. In 2021, the US banned Kolomoyskyi and his family from entering the country, accusing him of corruption and being a threat to the Ukrainian public's faith in democratic institutions. In July 2022, Zelenskyy stripped Kolomoyskyi of his Ukrainian citizenship. The reasons behind the move have been unclear, although Zelenskyy cited the ongoing US criminal investigation. In November 2022, some of Kolomoyski's assets, such as those of strategic value to the state in light of the Russian invasion, were nationalised. This included his ownership of Ukraine's largest gasoline companies.


This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 30 2023 10:23am
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May 30 2023 10:27am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 30 2023 12:22pm)
It's actually quite interesting to ask "who's the power behind Zelensky's throne?"

For example, there is this oligarch who I (and many others) thought to be the puppet maser behind him last year, but upon further reading, that seems to no longer be the case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi


I don’t think it’s a single person or interest. I think in most of these cases it’s a number of interests. Someone like him probably has internal oligarchs, other internal political sects, foreign governments and intelligence services and the list goes on.
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