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Aug 18 2020 10:58am
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They talk about it.


Hmmm yeah. They talk about it.

If only we had an entire world war to exemplify what happens when the ideology is taken to its conclusion.
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Hmmm yeah. They talk about it.

If only we had an entire world war to exemplify what happens when the ideology is taken to its conclusion.


No amount of equivocation is going to change how it is wrong to assault people for thought crimes.
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Aug 18 2020 11:33am
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No amount of equivocation is going to change how it is wrong to assault people for thought crimes.


You can think about it all you want. When you start marching you deserve to be punched
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You can think about it all you want. When you start marching you deserve to be punched


Marching is thoughtcrime.
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Aug 18 2020 11:40am
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Marching is thoughtcrime.


Sometimes you gotta stop being a pussy and punch people who deserve it.

Its truly a sign of the pussification of the country that punching a Nazi would be seen as wrong.
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It is an absolute moral good to inflict violence on literal Nazis.


It is not insofar as absolute good is subjective to human experience. But it is also not good even when you accept that punching Nazis in isolation is a good thing. Antifa is notoriously poor at defining and identifying "literal nazis", so we need to quantify all the evil perpetrated when non-Nazis are also harmed and weigh it against the good created by harming nazis. We also need to consider what happens when we make these moral calculations mainstream. It would probably follow that communists should also be punched, as they've racked up the largest toll of human misery and death in the last ~200 years.
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It is not insofar as absolute good is subjective to human experience. But it is also not good even when you accept that punching Nazis in isolation is a good thing. Antifa is notoriously poor at defining and identifying "literal nazis", so we need to quantify all the evil perpetrated when non-Nazis are also harmed and weigh it against the good created by harming nazis. We also need to consider what happens when we make these moral calculations mainstream. It would probably follow that communists should also be punched, as they've racked up the largest toll of human misery and death in the last ~200 years.


Nah, Capitalism has done far more than communism. It was the capitalist nations putting embargos on any nation that flirted with communism that was the cause of a lot of the deaths in places like China after all.

Capitalism actually invents new methods of suffering so you have to buy the product that ends it.

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Nah, Capitalism has done far more than communism. It was the capitalist nations putting embargos on any nation that flirted with communism that was the cause of a lot of the deaths in places like China after all.


I'm rolling my eyes.

Blaming the Great Leap Forward on embargoes is a new one.
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I'm rolling my eyes.

Blaming the Great Leap Forward on embargoes is a new one.


Your eyes will be rolling, into the back of your skull when my komrads put our boots on your dirty capitalist necks.

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Nah, Capitalism has done far more than communism. It was the capitalist nations putting embargos on any nation that flirted with communism that was the cause of a lot of the deaths in places like China after all.

Capitalism actually invents new methods of suffering so you have to buy the product that ends it.


The Hundred Flowers Campaign, also termed the Hundred Flowers Movement (traditional Chinese: 百花齊放; simplified Chinese: 百花齐放; pinyin: Bǎihuā Qífàng), was a period from 1956 to 1957 in the People's Republic of China during which the Communist Party of China (CPC) encouraged citizens to express openly their opinions of the communist regime.[1][2] Following the failure of the campaign, CPC Chairman Mao Zedong conducted an ideological crack down on those who criticized the regime, which continued through 1959. Observers differ as to whether Mao was genuinely surprised by the extent and seriousness of the criticism, or whether The Hundred Flowers Campaign was in fact a premeditated effort to identify, persecute, and silence critics of the regime.

During the campaign, differing views and solutions to national policy were encouraged based on the famous expression by Mao: "The policy of letting a hundred flowers bloom and a hundred schools of thought contend is designed to promote the flourishing of the arts and the progress of science."[3] The movement was in part a response to the demoralization of intellectuals, who felt estranged from the Communist Party.[4] After this brief period of liberalization, the crackdown continued through 1957–1959 as an Anti-Rightist Campaign against those who were critical of the regime and its ideology. Citizens were rounded up in waves by the hundred of thousands, publicly criticized, and condemned to prison camps for re-education through labor, or even execution.[5] The ideological crackdown re-imposed Maoist orthodoxy in public expression, and catalyzed the Anti-Rightist Movement.

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