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May 28 2023 02:49pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 28 2023 10:48pm)
hypocrisy


:lol:

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 13 2023 11:26pm)
Or what about the Russian withdrawal from bakhmut?


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May 28 2023 02:54pm
Quote (Djunior @ 28 May 2023 22:49)
:lol:


Quote (Djunior @ 24 Feb 2022 09:44am)
Let's just forget they've prepared for this for 2 decades, have completely overhauled and modernized their military.

Quote (Djunior @ 21 May 2023 10:58)
You know that Russia went in completely unprepared


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May 28 2023 03:32pm
Holy shit, you guys and your stockpiles of eachothers quotes are getting ridiculous

Can you pm them to eachother, literally no one else cares and has seen them hundreds of times and they weren't that great to begin with.
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May 28 2023 03:36pm
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Holy shit, you guys and your stockpiles of eachothers quotes are getting ridiculous

Can you pm them to eachother, literally no one else cares and has seen them hundreds of times and they weren't that great to begin with.


I think you are projecting with this comment
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May 28 2023 03:39pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ May 28 2023 06:36pm)
I think you are projecting with this comment


Not really lol
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May 28 2023 04:33pm
So Tsar's soup continue to send alot of missiles and iranians suicide drones to Kiyv, like they do since a week or two, which are almost if not all intercepted.
At the same time Ukrainians are attaking specific locations (with missiles, i guess the storm shadows are involved) in the south-south east area of occupied territories (ie: ~Melitopol).
Following the amount of explosions in the whole area, it does not reveal the one direction of the whole counter offensive but it could give an idea.
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May 28 2023 05:00pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ May 28 2023 07:33pm)
So Tsar's soup continue to send alot of missiles and iranians suicide drones to Kiyv, like they do since a week or two, which are almost if not all intercepted.
At the same time Ukrainians are attaking specific locations (with missiles, i guess the storm shadows are involved) in the south-south east area of occupied territories (ie: ~Melitopol).
Following the amount of explosions in the whole area, it does not reveal the one direction of the whole counter offensive but it could give an idea.


What's a tsar soup?
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May 28 2023 05:42pm
https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/05/28/study-shows-drones-the-cheapest-most-effective-in-battle-against-russian-invasion/

So basically Switchblade or javeline => for valuable targets.

Ukraine has trained an army of 10,000 drone pilots ahead of anticipated counteroffensive, minister says

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-trained-10000-drone-pilots-ahead-of-expected-counteroffensive-2023-5

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This post was edited by Meanwhile on May 28 2023 05:48pm
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May 28 2023 07:09pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ May 28 2023 04:40pm)
How much time should be made for people who don't know the basics of the situation a year + in?

The smugness you experience is probably a direct result of the condescending tone your posts have despite not being very well educated on the topic


I show you the complexity of the problem, even only referring to points that aren't even considered, and you call me uneducated. Go autoreproduce somewhere, maybe youll even contribute to the oxygen sink, thank you very much.
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May 28 2023 07:15pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 28 2023 04:43pm)
I am pretty sure by now looking at the comments and post so far, you will have an idea who are the ones who are consistently " shit posting " by now. Whether the civil liberty is continuously squeezed as you mention is an internal problem that needs to be solved by the Russians themselves.
A Russian problem can only be solved by Russians. A Muslim problem can only be solved by Muslim. External influence to create division will only end up with more unrest , colour revolutions and unstable politics that more often than not give rise to nationalism , terrorism, anarchy, population displacement etc etc which will have a detrimental outward effect to their surrounding neighbors and last but not least the EU West ( since they are most likely to to give refuge to those fleeing a devastated nation ).


Russian internal problems cannot be separated from geopolitics. They are an integral part of the considerations the West needs to go through before making its next move. Nobody was calling for a direct response here. Practicising apologism for Russia while denying the relevance of Russia's internal motions is biased or outright dishonest and doesnt deserve to be treated as a valid contribution to a Realpolitik analysis on European and/or superpower geopolitics. Dont you know that?

Quote (zorzin @ May 28 2023 04:46pm)
While I would agree with this statement usually, under wartime conditions all parties involved tend to act in their own self interest (Russia winning) so its easier to make broad assumptions about Russian geo politics (and nato) when at war because their intentions are more easily defined.(imo)


But who or what is Russia? Kremlin? Oligarchs? The people, democractically represented? Totalitarianistically represented? Or its the opposition?


This post was edited by Neptunus on May 28 2023 07:18pm
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