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May 28 2023 07:45am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 28 2023 08:56am)


Russia using the same doctrine it always has.


I believe this to be untrue for a couple of reasons.
First of which we (military doctrine noticers) have witnessed a massive change in Frontline combat:drone warfare. This alone has been a major factor in updating new equipment and doctrine for the US military. It is a major factor in the new optics for the new sig sauer xm5.

What is happening in Russia/Ukraine is changing doctrine all around the world in real time. It is a new generation of warfare and for the first time in a long time the states are not the ones spearheading it.
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May 28 2023 07:47am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ May 28 2023 09:20am)
^ferdia

To sum up what Ferdia replied you and also mentioning what ^ownyaah said a while back.
Moralists should never engage in a Geo Political / Geo Economics / Great Powers Political discourse.

You will only get one standard response from them without looking into the root cause / culture / existential threat / political ideology / race etc etc which are all important equations when it comes to any conflict / war / interest.
And the above applies to all belligerents.

The further you look back , the further you look forward.


Well said. Moralists tend to shame you for not having the same ((morals)) as them. They never seem to look at a problem objectively, instead they insult anyone with a differing opinion.
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May 28 2023 07:49am
Quote (zorzin @ May 28 2023 02:45pm)
I believe this to be untrue for a couple of reasons.
First of which we (military doctrine noticers) have witnessed a massive change in Frontline combat:drone warfare. This alone has been a major factor in updating new equipment and doctrine for the US military. It is a major factor in the new optics for the new sig sauer xm5.

What is happening in Russia/Ukraine is changing doctrine all around the world in real time. It is a new generation of warfare and for the first time in a long time the states are not the ones spearheading it.


What is happening in Ukraine is setting Russia's military back a decade. Absolute boon for NATO.

Paper tiger doctrine.
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May 28 2023 07:53am
Quote (zorzin @ 28 May 2023 21:47)
Well said. Moralists tend to shame you for not having the same ((morals)) as them. They never seem to look at a problem objectively, instead they insult anyone with a differing opinion.


Does everyone in the world deserves democracy , rights, safety , freedom of speech and freedom of choice ? Yes, Absolutely . Alas, in real life , we do not always get what we deserve.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on May 28 2023 07:53am
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May 28 2023 07:59am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 28 2023 10:48am)
C minus, try harder.


Why did you skip the NATO expansion part?

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May 28 2023 08:00am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 28 2023 03:49pm)
What is happening in Ukraine is setting Russia's military back a decade. Absolute boon for NATO.

Paper tiger doctrine.


NATO agenda is showing, chump
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May 28 2023 08:03am
Quote (Djunior @ May 28 2023 03:00pm)
NATO agenda is showing, chump


Why do you think several countries joined NATO?

Why do you think no countries willingly joined the RF?
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May 28 2023 08:10am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 28 2023 04:03pm)
Why do you think several countries joined NATO?

Why do you think no countries willingly joined the RF?


That excuse doesn't work anymore. Russians have warned plenty times, nothing happened so why not push it a bit further...

There's literally no way that you cannot see what is happening, NATO's obvious agenda and trash excuses.

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May 28 2023 08:12am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 28 2023 02:56pm)
70 year old tanks?

Russia using the same doctrine it always has. Zero post on your part.


Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 28 2023 03:49pm)
What is happening in Ukraine is setting Russia's military back a decade. Absolute boon for NATO.

Paper tiger doctrine.



So, a bunch of mercenaries armed with shovels and 70 y/o tanks took fortress Bakhmut while the Ukrainian army did everything it could to prevent that while being trained and equipped by NATO, meaning Ukraine has access to the most modern weapon systems, NATO intel using all the latest tech, satellites and what have you.

Care to explain this debacle?
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May 28 2023 08:30am
Quote (Djunior @ May 28 2023 03:10pm)
That excuse doesn't work anymore. Russians have warned plenty times, nothing happened so why not push it a bit further...

There's literally no way that you cannot see what is happening, NATO's obvious agenda and trash excuses.


What is NATO's agenda in your opinion?
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