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Aug 17 2020 12:00pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 17 2020 12:19pm)
But if its anyone's job to always defend the cops, its the union head's job. Being mad at him for touting the pro-cop line is like being mad at Nekima Levy Armstrong for touting the pro-BLM line.
Its one thing for critics of Walz or Frey to call out their maladministration and demand change. And its one thing for critics of Ilhan Omar to demand she resign over her controversies- they're directly in charge.
Attacking the mouthpiece is another thing entirely. These are folks calling for Bob Kroll's head for the same reason they'd call for any and every cop's head. They've chosen to shoot the messenger, and they're teetering on the verge beyond metaphorical as they beat his wife in effigy. I mean c'mon, they're drumming up reasons to pillory Liz Collins just for the mob's sake. I can understand protests that demand reform from those in positions to administrate. I can understand the peaceful and protected petition of your representatives, senators and state government to enact change, that is the heart of democracy. But these folks leapfrogged past attacking the other side for their beliefs and went full on foaming-at-the-mouth riotous mobs attacking random white children because they might grow up to be nazis

Its all indicative of the disease of modern illiberalism, that nobody should be entitled to their own beliefs, nobody should be free to think their own thoughts and express themselves. Its not enough to control the government, they want the government to control the people. There's no amount of reform measures from Arradondo that would sate the mob's appetite, no pandering by Frey or show trials conducted by Ellison that would be enough. Not as long as a contrary argument is freely expressed.


That's a lawyer's job. He ought to be looking out for the union as a whole.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 17 2020 10:19am)
But if its anyone's job to always defend the cops, its the union head's job. Being mad at him for touting the pro-cop line is like being mad at Nekima Levy Armstrong for touting the pro-BLM line.
Its one thing for critics of Walz or Frey to call out their maladministration and demand change. And its one thing for critics of Ilhan Omar to demand she resign over her controversies- they're directly in charge.
Attacking the mouthpiece is another thing entirely. These are folks calling for Bob Kroll's head for the same reason they'd call for any and every cop's head. They've chosen to shoot the messenger, and they're teetering on the verge beyond metaphorical as they beat his wife in effigy. I mean c'mon, they're drumming up reasons to pillory Liz Collins just for the mob's sake. I can understand protests that demand reform from those in positions to administrate. I can understand the peaceful and protected petition of your representatives, senators and state government to enact change, that is the heart of democracy. But these folks leapfrogged past attacking the other side for their beliefs and went full on foaming-at-the-mouth riotous mobs attacking random white children because they might grow up to be nazis

Its all indicative of the disease of modern illiberalism, that nobody should be entitled to their own beliefs, nobody should be free to think their own thoughts and express themselves. Its not enough to control the government, they want the government to control the people. There's no amount of reform measures from Arradondo that would sate the mob's appetite, no pandering by Frey or show trials conducted by Ellison that would be enough. Not as long as a contrary argument is freely expressed.


He had problems WAY before he was the union head.
I don't agree with riots either, but this guy clearly is more than just a talking head.. he has had recorded issues since the 90's
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Aug 18 2020 05:48am
Comissar Cletus... :Rofl: XD :D
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/mostly_peaceful_antifa_and_blm_protesters_almost_beat_a_man_to_death.html

we were assured by many people here and in the media that violence in portland was due to federal presence. the feds left a while ago and yet..

now we have mostly peaceful protestors practicing their field goal kicking attempts on some guy who was seemingly protecting a transwoman who had her property stolen by a peaceful protester -_-

This post was edited by excellence on Aug 18 2020 06:53am
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/mostly_peaceful_antifa_and_blm_protesters_almost_beat_a_man_to_death.html

we were assured by many people here and in the media that violence in portland was due to federal presence. the feds left a while ago and yet..

now we have mostly peaceful protestors practicing their field goal kicking attempts on some guy who was seemingly protecting a transwoman who had her property stolen by a peaceful protester -_-


what a bunch of hack bs pieces and connect the dots..
go back to FOX at least it's in HD etc.
Those white/black kids are all ANTIFA? LOL and all those kids are all BLM? or just people breaking the law and need to be arrested obviously.. Looks like a group of 20 people with nothing better to do in life.
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/mostly_peaceful_antifa_and_blm_protesters_almost_beat_a_man_to_death.html

we were assured by many people here and in the media that violence in portland was due to federal presence. the feds left a while ago and yet..

now we have mostly peaceful protestors practicing their field goal kicking attempts on some guy who was seemingly protecting a transwoman who had her property stolen by a peaceful protester -_-


she was a 'bert' (black exclusionary racist trans) who resisted the protesters' rightful demand for "spontaneous donations" as a form of reparations. hence, the man who intervened on her behalf was trying to uphold the ongoing oppression and systemic racism against people of color in America. his fascist ass deserved some 'direct action'.
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Aug 18 2020 07:07am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Aug 2020 09:01)
she was a 'bert' (black exclusionary racist trans) who resisted the protesters' rightful demand for "spontaneous donations" as a form of reparations. hence, the man who intervened on her behalf was trying to uphold the ongoing oppression and systemic racism against people of color in America. his fascist ass deserved some 'direct action'.


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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/08/mostly_peaceful_antifa_and_blm_protesters_almost_beat_a_man_to_death.html

we were assured by many people here and in the media that violence in portland was due to federal presence. the feds left a while ago and yet..

now we have mostly peaceful protestors practicing their field goal kicking attempts on some guy who was seemingly protecting a transwoman who had her property stolen by a peaceful protester -_-




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Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 18 2020 08:00am)
what a bunch of hack bs pieces and connect the dots..
go back to FOX at least it's in HD etc.
Those white/black kids are all ANTIFA? LOL and all those kids are all BLM? or just people breaking the law and need to be arrested obviously.. Looks like a group of 20 people with nothing better to do in life.


They don't all have to be, they just have to be the instigators.
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Aug 18 2020 08:30am
Quote (Santara @ Aug 18 2020 07:25am)
They don't all have to be, they just have to be the instigators.


so if they instigate issues they have a political affiliation? The news piece labeled them all.

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Aug 18 2020 08:31am
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