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May 26 2023 03:15pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 26 May 2023 21:50)
So... you're telling me Russia can wipe out Ukraine's main force by luring them into the region and then blowing up the Zaporizhzhia nuclear station? :unsure: :blink: ;)

Quote (Norlander @ 26 May 2023 21:40)
Ukrainian counteroffensive will be aimed at Zaporizhzhia oblast, judging by concentration of their forces. Nuclear station is the main target.


(imho)
Zapo- is an hostage. Today Ukrainians are claiming russians plan to blow it up... The same way last time i read about it (was month ago or so) russians evacuated all the possible civilians personal they could and were bringing alot of troops.
If something bad happend the russians will be largely accusated: they already blowed up Chernobyl by their incompetences and demonstrated brutality, clumsiness during the special woopseration.
Would ukrainians really blow up this plant on their own territory ? I don't think so. So none may blow it.
Russians can use the plant to stock artillery & ammunitions, central command/intel base, or whatever due the safer conditions.
The wide thickness of concrete can allow gun assault exchanges so Ukrainians could proceed a vast commando operation, for sure with all the intel, knowledge, and technological support of the NATO, but maybe cheaper version is simply to encircle it. Btw encirclement is a big strategy for the whole recovery of territories, avoiding the cost of the urban warfare we know.

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May 26 2023 05:03pm
Quote (Djunior @ 26 May 2023 22:06)
lol wut

That's pretty much a flat line (slight increase compared to what follows) roughly May 2021 - September 2021 (still corona pandemic time)

The price drastically increases by the end of the year due to Russian energy squeeze and troop buildup on Ukrainian border in December 2021. This is related to the conflict, NOT because of the corona pandemic.

And look at the price explosion after that, lol. You can read a graph or don't you, lol

It's not a flat line. I gave you the link to the site where you can look up the actual prices at any day - natural gas prices had already more than doubled before any troop buildup on Ukraine's borders began, clearly refuting your claim that energy prices only spiked after the invasion. Likewise, the chart I posted shows that the major spikes occurred in early July (when Nord Stream 1 was shut down due to maintenance and there was uncertainty about whether it would come online again) and then around late August, when Russia started closing the gas tap altogether. By contrast, the spike after September 26 (when the Nord Stream pipelines were blown up) is miniscule, thus disproving your other claim that "prices spiked especially after NS sabotage".

The takeaway from my chart is that energy prices (and inflation) had already been creeping up a lot before the outbreak of the war. Then, there was a shortlived and mild spike in early March 2022, after the start of the invasion. Afterwards, gas prices kept creeping up for months at a roughly similar rate... until Russia started outright threatening to close the gas tap, which they eventually did. The sabotage of the NS pipelines in late September only had a marginal effect. In November and early December, there was a cold spell during which worries about gas shortages popped up again, leading to another peak of gas prices. Then, around Christmas, a spell of unusually mild weather arrived and eliminated these fears for good, at least for the winter of 2022/23. Since then, gas prices have been slowly coming back down to earth again.




Sure, the war has further fueled inflation by quite a lot, but the acute energy crisis many feared was averted. We still sit on lots of natural gas and also oil which were bought last year while prices went bonkers, so that it takes time for prices to fully normalize, but things are trending in the right direction on the energy front. Furthermore, the data clearly shows that the relevant spikes in energy prices were triggered by Russia's closing of the gas tap, rather than by talks about sanctions or by the destruction of Nord Stream. And last but not least, inflation had already picked up lots of pace before the war began. For example, US inflation rates already stood at 7.5% in January 2022.

The evidence clearly points to a two-pronged explanation for the surging inflation: the aftereffects of the covid era (money printing, missed production, disrupted supply chains) started the inflation, the war in Ukraine then exacerbated it.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 26 2023 05:05pm
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May 26 2023 05:34pm
Quote (ferdia @ 27 May 2023 00:19)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3CeQ6qQlJ8


A rise of reactionary and polarized opinions: there's so much informations available and so much people trying to get visibilty over political stances... While education & general knowledge are declining due lack of reading or high specializations... (ie: only study Maths or Economy...)
Some northern eu country (i don't remember which one) have "internet courses" where kids learn how to identify fake or false informations. Or to seek different sources on same subject.

Imho it's still possible to have an optimistic view over all this mess : this could only be a temporary "cultural" shock and new generations could adapt by getting early experience without getting as much negative consequences as we have now with adults.
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May 27 2023 12:38am
NATO announces they plan to expand into cereal manufacturing.

Putin decrees anyone that eats breakfast is a now a nazi. Invasion pending.
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May 27 2023 03:22am
“We need to elect a different government that will end this story with Ukraine and will build a normal relationship with European countries.” Boris Nadezhdin on Russian State TV.

https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1662341817352744961

Whatever the translation is accurate and/or if it's really available nation wide to all russians (need confirmations) ...Well...Don't forget war reparations...
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May 27 2023 06:53am
Girkin accuses Prigozhin of preparing for a coup in Russia.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1662429293719298049

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May 27 2023 07:30am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 27 2023 01:03am)
It's not a flat line. I gave you the link to the site where you can look up the actual prices at any day - natural gas prices had already more than doubled before any troop buildup on Ukraine's borders began, clearly refuting your claim that energy prices only spiked after the invasion. Likewise, the chart I posted shows that the major spikes occurred in early July (when Nord Stream 1 was shut down due to maintenance and there was uncertainty about whether it would come online again) and then around late August, when Russia started closing the gas tap altogether. By contrast, the spike after September 26 (when the Nord Stream pipelines were blown up) is miniscule, thus disproving your other claim that "prices spiked especially after NS sabotage".

The takeaway from my chart is that energy prices (and inflation) had already been creeping up a lot before the outbreak of the war. Then, there was a shortlived and mild spike in early March 2022, after the start of the invasion. Afterwards, gas prices kept creeping up for months at a roughly similar rate... until Russia started outright threatening to close the gas tap, which they eventually did. The sabotage of the NS pipelines in late September only had a marginal effect. In November and early December, there was a cold spell during which worries about gas shortages popped up again, leading to another peak of gas prices. Then, around Christmas, a spell of unusually mild weather arrived and eliminated these fears for good, at least for the winter of 2022/23. Since then, gas prices have been slowly coming back down to earth again.




Sure, the war has further fueled inflation by quite a lot, but the acute energy crisis many feared was averted. We still sit on lots of natural gas and also oil which were bought last year while prices went bonkers, so that it takes time for prices to fully normalize, but things are trending in the right direction on the energy front. Furthermore, the data clearly shows that the relevant spikes in energy prices were triggered by Russia's closing of the gas tap, rather than by talks about sanctions or by the destruction of Nord Stream. And last but not least, inflation had already picked up lots of pace before the war began. For example, US inflation rates already stood at 7.5% in January 2022.

The evidence clearly points to a two-pronged explanation for the surging inflation: the aftereffects of the covid era (money printing, missed production, disrupted supply chains) started the inflation, the war in Ukraine then exacerbated it.


The war caused energy prices to explode and inflation (food / fertilizer related) exploded as well. That energy prices came down has to do with (massive) LNG investments, those terminals didn't build themselves...

LNG is always going to be more expensive because it first has to be liquified (using expensive infrastructure), then shipped from the US or Qatar (lol) and then must be converted to gas again (using expensive infrastructure).

That's facts right there and no wall of text that you type will change those facts.

If this shit had not happened and you would still be able to buy Russian gas via pipelines then it's safe to say that a lot of industry in your country wasn't forced to shut down, Uniper wouldn't need 12 billion taxpayer's money and all households in Germany combined would've saved how many billion?

LMK


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Quote (Meanwhile @ May 27 2023 02:53pm)
Girkin accuses Prigozhin of preparing for a coup in Russia.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1662429293719298049

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Just like the revolution in Iran?

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May 27 2023 07:50am
Quote (Djunior @ 27 May 2023 15:32)
Just like the revolution in Iran?

:o


No, more like "russia win in 3 month" while being "fully prepared" and "not prepared" at the same time :lol:
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