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Aug 17 2020 08:16am
Quote (excellence @ Aug 17 2020 07:13am)
youre both pale pasty privileged lefties. this guy wants nothing to do with either of you lmfao, pathetic..

https://media.thedonald.win/post/2ognV5qH.jpeg


man you started drinking early this am.
what is the connection? LOL my point was holier than tho Shapiro would never step within 100 yards of that guy, because he is a privileged whiny asshole.
And you got some 4chan snapshot about communism.
LOOOOOOOOOOL
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Quote (theCrossbones @ 17 Aug 2020 10:16)
man you started drinking early this am.
what is the connection? LOL my point was holier than tho Shapiro would never step within 100 yards of that guy, because he is a privileged whiny asshole.
And you got some 4chan snapshot about communism.
LOOOOOOOOOOL

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Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 17 2020 08:25am)
Dems openly supporting a dem candidate calling to burn down more stuff :wacko:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/minneapolis-john-thompson-video-bob-kroll


Maybe if you knew how much of a monumental piece of shit Bob Kroll is, you'd understand the protesting at his home and the wild rhetoric about him.
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Aug 17 2020 08:34am
Quote (excellence @ 17 Aug 2020 16:13)
youre both pale pasty privileged lefties. this guy in the video despises privileged people like you and wants nothing to do with either of you lmfao, pathetic..

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Wow! This is so correct on so many levels! :lol:
(Writing it from a postsocialist country)

And that is why the "Black Elite" derailed the whole BLM into a racewar, before it could manifest as a classwar.

Tho the US is a Far capitalist country, wich needs to go back on the scale a bit (not too much), because Far capitalist is as bad as Far socialist
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Maybe if you knew how much of a monumental piece of shit Bob Kroll is, you'd understand the protesting at his home and the wild rhetoric about him.


I don't know anything about the guy, whats the story
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Maybe if you knew how much of a monumental piece of shit Bob Kroll is, you'd understand the protesting at his home and the wild rhetoric about him.



Still don't think people should demonstrate at someone's home.
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I don't know anything about the guy, whats the story


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Kroll_(police_officer)
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Quote (Santara @ Aug 17 2020 09:19am)
Maybe if you knew how much of a monumental piece of shit Bob Kroll is, you'd understand the protesting at his home and the wild rhetoric about him.


Bob Kroll is representative of the body of police and their pushback against the hostility of cop hating liberals.
The police chose him to represent them as union head and he does. Its his job to stand up to Mike Freeman, Keith Ellison, Tim Walz, Jacob Frey and the rest of the gang who demonize cops and refuse to enforce the law or keep the peace.
We didn't slide into the anarchy of literally having the cities burnt down by lawless rioting without leaders abdicating their responsibilities, and its been Bob Kroll calling them out for it.
To be a union head isn't to have the power to control any of that. He's not a politician, he's not the police chief. He's a union head, and all he can do is voice what his union members believe.

For the BLM goons to oppose Bob Kroll and take it to the level of threatening random white families in Hugo is to show that they aren't satisfied with all the leadership and political positions going to cop-haters, but that the very beliefs and opinions held by police officers must be challenged and destroyed, that they shouldn't be allowed to think the way they think. Its about saying police aren't entitled to their own representation, that they shouldn't be allowed to hold opinions, and that the union itself must be destroyed and the men and women brought to heel.

So naturally its the overtly racist folks who threaten random children and scream profanity that go out and attack Bob Kroll and his wife in effigy while calling him a monumental piece of shit.
I'd like to point out this is exactly the kind of issue that separates the civil libertarians from the libertarians, I think it encapsulates the distinction neatly. It couldn't be more polar opposite entrenched positions.
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Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 17 2020 09:57am)
I don't know anything about the guy, whats the story


He's the epitome of the thin blue line, without a filter. You find a local issue pertaining to cops, and he's out front defending cops, no matter what they've done, and being a belligerent fuckhead while he does it - just like cops. He's the embodiment of Eric Cartman's "you will respect mah authoritah!"

Quote (Ghot @ Aug 17 2020 10:01am)
Still don't think people should demonstrate at someone's home.


I don't think so either, but I understand it.

Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 17 2020 10:39am)
Bob Kroll is representative of the body of police and their pushback against the hostility of cop hating liberals.
The police chose him to represent them as union head and he does. Its his job to stand up to Mike Freeman, Keith Ellison, Tim Walz, Jacob Frey and the rest of the gang who demonize cops and refuse to enforce the law or keep the peace.
We didn't slide into the anarchy of literally having the cities burnt down by lawless rioting without leaders abdicating their responsibilities, and its been Bob Kroll calling them out for it.
To be a union head isn't to have the power to control any of that. He's not a politician, he's not the police chief. He's a union head, and all he can do is voice what his union members believe.

For the BLM goons to oppose Bob Kroll and take it to the level of threatening random white families in Hugo is to show that they aren't satisfied with all the leadership and political positions going to cop-haters, but that the very beliefs and opinions held by police officers must be challenged and destroyed, that they shouldn't be allowed to think the way they think. Its about saying police aren't entitled to their own representation, that they shouldn't be allowed to hold opinions, and that the union itself must be destroyed and the men and women brought to heel.

So naturally its the overtly racist folks who threaten random children and scream profanity that go out and attack Bob Kroll and his wife in effigy while calling him a monumental piece of shit.
I'd like to point out this is exactly the kind of issue that separates the civil libertarians from the libertarians, I think it encapsulates the distinction neatly. It couldn't be more polar opposite entrenched positions.


Because the union doesn't seek out truth, and instead defends its cops, no matter how bad they are, the union is now reaping what it sowed. You're right that he's just the mouthpiece, but the fact that's he's actually representative of what police officers really are like in Minneapolis, is a scathing indictment of policing in the first place and protesters are justified. Rioting isn't justified, but protesting absolutely is.
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Quote (Santara @ Aug 17 2020 11:33am)
He's the epitome of the thin blue line, without a filter. You find a local issue pertaining to cops, and he's out front defending cops, no matter what they've done, and being a belligerent fuckhead while he does it - just like cops. He's the embodiment of Eric Cartman's "you will respect mah authoritah!"



I don't think so either, but I understand it.



Because the union doesn't seek out truth, and instead defends its cops, no matter how bad they are, the union is now reaping what it sowed. You're right that he's just the mouthpiece, but the fact that's he's actually representative of what police officers really are like in Minneapolis, is a scathing indictment of policing in the first place and protesters are justified. Rioting isn't justified, but protesting absolutely is.


But if its anyone's job to always defend the cops, its the union head's job. Being mad at him for touting the pro-cop line is like being mad at Nekima Levy Armstrong for touting the pro-BLM line.
Its one thing for critics of Walz or Frey to call out their maladministration and demand change. And its one thing for critics of Ilhan Omar to demand she resign over her controversies- they're directly in charge.
Attacking the mouthpiece is another thing entirely. These are folks calling for Bob Kroll's head for the same reason they'd call for any and every cop's head. They've chosen to shoot the messenger, and they're teetering on the verge beyond metaphorical as they beat his wife in effigy. I mean c'mon, they're drumming up reasons to pillory Liz Collins just for the mob's sake. I can understand protests that demand reform from those in positions to administrate. I can understand the peaceful and protected petition of your representatives, senators and state government to enact change, that is the heart of democracy. But these folks leapfrogged past attacking the other side for their beliefs and went full on foaming-at-the-mouth riotous mobs attacking random white children because they might grow up to be nazis

Its all indicative of the disease of modern illiberalism, that nobody should be entitled to their own beliefs, nobody should be free to think their own thoughts and express themselves. Its not enough to control the government, they want the government to control the people. There's no amount of reform measures from Arradondo that would sate the mob's appetite, no pandering by Frey or show trials conducted by Ellison that would be enough. Not as long as a contrary argument is freely expressed.
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